[WIP][SERVER]Planetary Obliteration

Discussion in 'Work-In-Progress Mods' started by stuart98, June 7, 2016.

  1. emarkus

    emarkus Active Member

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    Hi stuard98,

    thank you for the newest release, although I currently don't even know what a Swarm and a Hive is :)
    Yesterday, we played Obliteration together.

    Feedback:

    It was really funny and balanced, in my oppinion. I'd like to play it more often, but last time I played it against AI, it didn't work. (AI didn't move).

    I never play legion. Prefer MLA.

    One thing confuses me: The legion icons. They are not consistent to the scheme of MLA. Of course, it is a new faction. But a bot is a bot and a vehicle is a vehicle. The colorized form of the icons should represent the unit type, while the inner symbol should represent the weapon types. I prefer a more minimalistic way. Just some personal thoughts.

    But overall, the game was very funny. The camera shakes gave a nice feeling.

    I'd like to donate, but unfortunately you refused :p
    So I only can say: Thank you for your mod.
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  2. stuart98

    stuart98 Post Master General

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    Do you have any other AI mods enabled? AI should be working.

    Legion Icons should use the same style of icon as MLA. Most should be shared in fact.
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    Right, it works. Maybe last time I had Queller AI enabled.

    Hm, and looking at the icons... Yes, maybe i mixed it with vanilla legion or something else...
  4. stuart98

    stuart98 Post Master General

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    12.4 will be released in a few hours as last night's playtest brought an issue to my attention where drifters can't attack water surface. I might pack a few other adjustments in too.
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  5. emarkus

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    Cool.

    Tested a bit... For my taste, sometimes it is too much "pew pew" (like the pew-pew mod) :) The colors are very agressive bright. Effects should be a bit more decent in background. Well, its taste.

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  6. stuart98

    stuart98 Post Master General

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    Which effects in particular?
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    I mean the explosion and shooting effects. Hard to tell if there are some specific units or weapons which bright colors. just general thought.

    For example, when I reclaim a half builded factory, then a middle huge blue energy flash appears. It distracts everytime when I am "just" reclaiming something :D
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  8. emarkus

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    AI does not start. Maybe this is because my custom planet type? (ice+lava+mountain)

    (see attachment)

    ai-freeze.png

    Edit: After disabling Obliteration, normal AI can handle this map.
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  9. Quitch

    Quitch Post Master General

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    Disable all your mods, then re-enable Planetary Obliteration. Make sure you change the AI from Idle to PO.
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  10. stuart98

    stuart98 Post Master General

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    Alpha 12.4

    Minor balance changes and a couple of bug fixes.

    Bug Fixes
    Rockteeth Commmander can now target stuff on the water's surface.
    Drifter can now target stuff on the water's surface.
    Helios can now target stuff underwater.
    Imperator can now target stuff underwater or on the sea floor.
    Tyr no longer has underwater vision.

    Legion
    Osprey T1 Air Transport - Can now pickup commanders and sea+air fabbers.
    Gadfly Medium Missile Defense - HP increased from 700 to 800
    Iron Dome Ant-Nuke: Cost increased from 2000 to 2750
    Theodor Light Artillery Defense - Cost reduced from 900 to 800; renamed to Immolator
    Decimator Advanced Rocket Defense - Cost reduced from 2000 to 1800; range increased from 160 to 180
    Scarab Medium Defense - Cost increased from 900 to 1000, range reduced from 160 to 150.
    Chariot Orbital Lander - Cost increased from 200 to 300, HP increased from 150 to 200, intra-planetary movement values increased from 25 to 40.
    Tyr Orbital Particle Cannon Titan - Cost increased from 28000 to 32000; damage increased from 300 to 600
    Hydra Assault Battlecruiser - Cost increased form 2700 to 2800, HP increased from 3600 to 3800, laser damage increased from 30 to 35.

    MLA
    Pelican T1 Air Transport - Can now pickup commanders.
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  11. emarkus

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    commander pickup?
    nice! :p

    @Quitch
    I will clean up my PA environment. May be better then.
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  12. Quitch

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    Stuart, does your latest version actually work, or do you get a crash during mod upload too? With a filesystem version I get a crash on PA startup.
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  13. stuart98

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    Fixed.

    "You never learn
    Everything should be tested before commit, no matter how simple" - Quitch, on me not testing mods.
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    Quitch Post Master General

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    You fixed it in the release repo, not the development repo, didn't you? I hate you.
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  15. stuart98

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    Alpha 12.5
    Mostly minor balance changes.

    Polish
    Gil-E MLA Sniper bot has a new FX
    Talos Legion Anti-Orbital defense now uses Gil-E projectile.

    Legion
    Firebird Interplanetary Fighter - Minor adjustments to movement and firing behavior
    Orbweaver Advanced AA Bot - Splash removed, cost reduced from 700 to 600, damage increased from 20 to 60, RoF increased from 2 to 3.
    Advanced Metal Extractor - Cost reduced from 1800 to 1200.
    Talos Anti-Orbital Defense - Cost increased from 1000 to 1200, RoF lowered from 1 to 0.333, damage increased from 200 to 1000

    MLA
    Chastener Medium Missile Defense - Range reduced from 280 to 190.
    Advanced Metal Extractor - Cost reduced from 1600 to 1400.
    Leveler Assault Tank - Damage reduced from 300 to 250.
    Umbrella Anti-Orbital Defense - Cost reduced from 700 to 600.

    Bug Fixes
    Explosions of bots, vehicles, and most structures will no longer hit aircraft or orbital units.
    Explosions of T2 pgens for MLA will no longer hit orbital units.
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  16. emarkus

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    Here is a picture of some MLA icon shapes that don't match general style, and I don't like them personally, because of inconsistency. All units are level 2 MLA tanks. One icon shape even look looks like plane icon.

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    The shielder uses a legacy icon, I keep forgetting to replace it.

    I'll look into changing the Thumper icon.
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  18. stuart98

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    Alpha 13
    Quitch has redone the AI.
    Other changes:
    Apocalypse Apparatus lower lasers can no longer hit air.
    Eviscerator can no longer hit air.
    Scarab can no longer hit air.
    Legion T1 fabbers can build anti-nukes.
    Fixed a couple of bugs involving amphibious units being buildable by naval combat fabbers.
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    Thanks for the AI improvements. Time for some single player PO training :)

    I don't know something about these units, but why not? PO is still experimental :)
    You mean to add these units additionally? Then I vote yes.

    By the way: Forget what I told in a previous post about unit icons. I've seen now, that in original PA even level 1 bots have the same icon shape extensions in case of rocket weapons. So nothing I could complain of. ("Original PA is wrong!!!11") :p

    Do you know what my favourite PO unit is? It's sonar :D

    By far the biggest barrier to adding new units is finding someone who can animate, model, and texture units
    I thought a bit about this, Some thoughts about this:
    What about some invisible units with no texture at all, such as a spy bot, a cloaked energy plant, a cloaked radar? Enemy would need radar to shoot at them. I don't know if this is technically possible.

    Also I thought about reusing existing models. For example a decoy commander, which is not a real commander in order to mislead enemies. Or a fake pelter.

    Or what about weapon models?

    Pelter P100: Long range cannon.
    Pelter P101: Long range cannon with increased accuracy.
    Pelter P500: Fast long range cannon. Very inaccurate. Moderate damage.
    Pelter P900: Very long range cannon. Slow reloading.

    Or:
    Hardened Energy Plant

    Maybe submenus required if technically possible.

    Just some ideas. I don't know if this would be useful, but I would like this. It gives the powerful feeling of having control :)

    So much for the talking... now I am going to texturing a bit...

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