When will this be in game

There are 3 distinct questions with regards to the dress, so you need to be careful about which question you are answering. 2 questions have a correct, and only 1, correct answer. The third varies from person to person:

1. What colour is the dress in real life? Blue & Black
2. What colour is the dress in the image? (as in, pixels) Light Grey/Light blue/Purple & Gold
3. What colour do you perceive the dress to be in the image? Varies

#3 depends on the person, the screen they are viewing it on and the lighting in the area they are viewing it. There is no correct answer for 3. A lot of people got caught up on this; claiming number 3 doesn't matter because either #1 or #2 had fixed answers, and were therefore the "correct" answer overall, but that's wrong. It all depends on which question you ask.

Indeed some people (me included) could actually watch it transition between blue/black and white/gold in front of their eyes. Not sure if that's psychological or not, but there are plenty of other optical illusions that have a similar effect.

have you ever heard of the expression apples and oranges? because if ever there was a time to use it it's now.

dress is not same pixel color in both shots:
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whereas the squares in your picture are (they aren't in your specific picture but if they wern't pixelated to holy f**k, they would be)

you picking it off the wrong site would explain that : http://brainden.com/color-illusions.htm

I google searched it to attempt to fix your mistake but that picture doesn't exist on the web in it's original quality

what you showed me is called an optical illusion.

here's a non failed attempt at showing you one:


here's what i got when cutting out both square lining em up together then making the size of the image much bigger :


therefore they are the same color (or two very close shades)

what I explained to you about the dress but you chose to close your ears and chant "lalala", and I had some actual science thrown in there that you could have learned from, is that the pixels really are different values in different screens (particularly phones) like they do for all images , this time there was extra fuel to light the fire. had they been outputting the same value exactly with the same contrast and luminosity settings on the different screens the difference (yes there still would've been a difference) would've been minimal.

that extra fuel was actual different pictures of the dress and the fact that the picture was too close putting the pixels in a zone where they are composed of some very random colors to represent some simple ones. (this is something that is present in digital images (especially in movies) more than you are prepared to believe.)

Add or remove some saturation or luminosity and BOOM, voila!

(I have fun with these levers in photoshop on a regular basis, so I have a predisposition to understanding the workings of pixels (((Seriously, though, you have no idea how much PS experience I have under the belt, erik johansson doesn't even slightly phase me anymore)))

Again this is all the job of your brain : able to make a quick average in a millisecond.

lemme show you:








And you tell me I'm "denying science" ? No man I'm muthafukin lecturing it, now sit back down and write down your homework for next week...

brain switching between making the slightest little effort and completely off, noone's home, would explain it.

I guess I didn't have this because I can't make my brain have that little activity.

when on drugs I can get the impression that time is going by at a different speed or that my field of vision either narrowed or got really big.

I never had a color interpretation failure causing a visual glitch, though.

Tatsujb, there's no need to be so condescending to others in every post.

There was never two original images of the dress. The darker version was created later to show the effect of different lighting conditions. But even on the same screen, with the same lighting, people saw different things, and far too many to be an anomaly. Visual perception is different to "true" colour of an image, and there is no such thing as "correct" perception.

Well the first time I saw it I'd been told it was white and gold and saw it as bright white and gold (far more vividly than any contrast would alter it). Then I discovered it was blue and black and saw it as it actually is from then on, until someone told me they could see it changing, and next time I looked lo and behold I watched it change colour. As you said this isn't some amazing revelation, the human visual system is easily tricked and it's a well described phenomenon.

Also it has nothing to do with being able to reduce brain activity, that's complete rubbish. You might want to go read up on the subject before making sweeping and derogatory comments.

I know that. and I explained it in my two posts. here : https://forums.uberent.com/threads/when-will-this-be-in-game.68241/#post-1075885
and here : https://forums.uberent.com/threads/when-will-this-be-in-game.68241/page-2#post-1075904

there is such a thing as a correct perception: seeing the dress in person. (at least for trichromatic eye-d people, if you are color-blind there's an exception)

...and now to ease the tension.

JAZZ HANDS!

the brain is easily tricked, yes.

but as I said it's only a question the picture being taken too close.

there are too few visual anchors in this picture for our brain to latch on to : was the dress lying on the ground? was it on the ceiling? on the wall? right side up?

you assume it's right side up and vertical like a wall (yes it probably is) because of the very strong light, you assume it was a window. but that's your brain doing all this assuming and then it has to do the same for the combo of blue and yellow pixels in the same zones of the picture.... the less contextualizing info, the more wild the assumptions.

the visual interpretation department in your brain :
"it's clearly two different zones but are there more yellow or blue pixels? neither.... well ****.... is it very well lit? could be the room is so bright the metalized threads of the fabric are bouncing light, if that where the case, I'd substract some yellow pixels and it'd make sense and become blue. Oh! wait! maybe I'm wrong! I mean I don't know what I'm really being asked by the reasoning department here, like "what color are these pixels" or "what was the original color of the fabric", if it's the former then my answer is yellow, DOH! wait switching back to interpreting again!"

you get the idea?

Yeah I'm not arguing with any of that, I was just commenting on the fact that a large part of it is down to how suggestible the human brain can be. I saw the same image differently after being TOLD it was a certain way. The only reason I replied to your comment was because you were on some giant 'grrrrrr it's not really science people so stoopid grrrrrr' rant, and I think it is an interesting scientific phenomenon, and has nothing to do with the individual.

Also, errrm, a mod should probably move this thread to off topic or just delete all our posts.

PS: I enjoyed your brain narration, made me want to write a little 'day in the life of a dox' stream of consciousness diary.

So, summing up this thread's content: scarves, hats and dresses for all the commander Uber plz!

And all three should change color, either as a damage indicator or perhaps randomly