Uh... Performance Drop?

Running out of VRAM does make a difference, even if you have available RAM. They are not the same kind of RAM.

I know that GDDR5 isn't the same as DDR3... I'm just telling what in practice I got on my tests, and the performance in game didn't start to decrease until my system ran out of free (I mean "free", not "available") RAM memory (mostly caused by coherent_ui), no matter how full (or even overloaded) my VRAM was

If you run out of VRAM I'm pretty sure it swaps out the stuff it doesn't use for the stuff it does with main RAM. If that pipe between them is fat enough the delay shouldn't be super noticeable. If some of that ever caches to disk you are boned tho.

Oh you can actually read directly from main memory with pcie? Fancy that.

Varrak, I'm not sure i understood correctly how rendering is working, and if you could elaborate a little bit further that would be very helpfull and might help me to understand a few performance patterns while in game :
As far as i understood, there's some stuff performed by the CPU, and then remaining stuff is performed by GPU.
Now I'm wondering how all the cpu part is working : Is client only computing stuff which is in the field of vision of the player ? Or is it computing stuff which is not in the field of vision at time = t, but could be in the field of vision at time=t+dt if player decides to change the field of vision by (dx,dy,dz) ? I'm asking this, because while covering half of the planet in late game and running at 20FPS, i decided to change my field of vision and move to the other side of the planet which is empty. however, this does not impact at all FPS (nor GPU workload, nor CPU workload). FPS keep at 20. So i'm guessing rendering stuff performed by cpu is working on all possible units that can be virtually seen by the player. However, i guess only the stuff which is to be really displayed is sent to the gpu. I'm wondering how all this is working and if it's possible to multithread it (Many times cpu is burning like for this single thread). i also find it quite a bit strange to have gpu & cpu not at 100% and FPS in late game not being higher than 20 when actually, it's at 120 at the very beginning.

Is there actually any way to turn of PIP?

Good. looking forward to where the problem will be my outdated PC rather than (yet) unoptimised game. Keep us posted, will you.

Oh I though since it opens instantly that it was "open" anyways

Beta is GOOOOODDDDD

It seems that there has also been a performance drop in the UI screens like settings, the main menu, and the new game menu.

Does it fix the issues with more than two holodecks?

After a quick stress test (4 planets, 4 biomes), I'm getting now better fps and performance in general with 'ubber' settings, than with v61450 in 'high' or even medium 'setting'. Excelent job varrak

Curiously, I'm getting a new kind of framerate hit whenever I click in the holodeck. Clicking really rapidly drops my framerate in half. Dragging a box over a large group of units will butchers the framerate.

My performance has not been too bad. I really think that the area patrol with air units slows the game down. I only built land for most of the last few games I played on the newest patch. But as soon as I started building air towards the end in each game, with them being set on area patrol around my base, the major performance hit starts.

I can post some of the CTRL+P performance screens and other things tomorrow if it occurs again.

That is always useful when discussing performance issues. All four stats panels have useful information. Client, GPU, Server, and Sim.

Didn't really help my performance.

It still isn't as good as it was on 61250.