Discussion in 'Videos And Replays!' started by Qzipco, July 9, 2016.
It's just one example of many, I have given actual proof of something you did and later called "unethical" which indeed makes it hypocritical, yet you still have to give me proof of every "argument" you just made . Saying someone's argument is terrible and not giving valid arguments to contradict the initial argument is terrible, is just straight up sophism.
Dahm the salt is real.
Not only did i stop doing that nonsense shortly after i discovered it 9 months ago, unlike some of us here I don't do it in tournaments and pretend to be an angel. You see, I actually have respect for people. Did you see me commander reclaiming against oxide? Jesus, why am i even justifying myself to you? 10/10 you baited me great.
If you want a clearer expression of my arguments, go read cdrkf's post again. I'm done wasting time on this nonsense.
You did actually reclaim versus oxide: . Again no good arguments and only personal attack. I find it funny you call me salty when you're the one only making "arguments" consisting of personal attacks.
Could you people take it outside?
in badbot buddies a tournament for money you were pushing your com with boombots to try and stay alive elodea, so stop talking nonsense about not doing it @21:20
you discovered it 9 months ago? Are you saying that you invented it because I have seen people using that strat over a year ago!
That would have been me.
He is mistaken on the months, come on elodea can you please proof read everything you type in this forum before posting
This thread is from a couple of days after Titans was released. OMG you couldnt even push units over a year ago. This was the initialfind, with com and manhattan pushing coming ca 1-2 months after which I'd argue makes elodeas statement correct.
Well then this makes it very unethical indeed...
"oh crap, my arguments are already failing me halfway through. Activate the false accusations to claim high moral ground!" Elodea suggesting that Qzipco is lying to prove a point is also incredibly unethical... Elodea states that he doesn't use a strat because he doesn't agree with it, he is then shown video evidence of him using it in a fight. Just seems like childish remarks are being flung everywhere in this post.
The post should be renamed to "false economy".
PS. Mustard gas is also considered unethical and yet people still use it
Lmao, is that it? I encourage everyone to actually watch it and laugh at the ridiculous extent people will go to construe anything. I don't think you've seen what actual intentional pushing is (same video right after that, 2 Qzipco dox pushing our commander halfway across the map away from their base). Turn off all vision and it'll become painfully obvious the boombots are being moved for a commander snipe by avoiding dox.
Who the hell builds walls infront of their commander before pushing? Who the hell pushes their commander back to the same place? Who the hell runs their units through commander to push it backwards?
Honestly, I'm more insulted that you think my commander push skills are so poor. That was the worst commander push i have ever seen.
I don't even know how to reply to this level of stupidity. Discovering a collision bug is one thing, discovering you can use it as an actual commander pushing strat is another thing, and abusing it in tournaments is another.
Your arguements are trash and your evidence is non-existent. Stop embarrassing yourself.
Honestly mate, I don't think it is worth continuing any form of conversation on this thread. I made my points clear, you are repeatedly back stepping or lying in this thread, you could have responded to my comment with a tad bit of respect.
If you didn't understand the question you could have asked me to rephrase which I will gladly do here. "When you say you discovered it, do you mean you were the first person to find out about this exploit and use it as a strat, or you discovered it in terms of finding out about the strat from other people using it?"
In fact I am not even sure I want a reply from you considering that all your responses seem to be personal attacks and not having a critical argument. As I said before, it is childish behaviour.
I think that's happening to a lot of people on here.
Let's take a break from this thread, get together in a teamspeak somewhere and do some hard grinding at this mod with different strategies and different maps.
It seems with current 'evidence' all that can be said has been, and now we're devolving into mud-slinging and "You started it".
These are 14 PAstats games which used the ''true economy mod'' .....I either played or spectated them
In every single one of these games the opponent knew they were gonna try and defeat qzipco and his com repair exploit (essentially they knew what qzipco was going to do).
These were honestly the trolliest 1v1s i have ever seen...From what I've seen this mod will basically turn reclaim strats into repair strats which really doesn't seem like a fix for com reclaim to me, its actually miss leading to call this mod the true economy mod.
I think the argument of the problem being in the bug of com pushing itself rather then the mod is basically just a scapegoat to defend the mod. I think its pretty undeniable that if this mod is implemented in tournaments that the game will basically devolve into com pushing and repair strats.
ps there is a space between . com
So nerf CFab repair. Maybe buff its HP while you're at it. I'll get a quick and dirty mod (TM) out to do so kappa
Great idea! Let's make 10 more mods to solve just 1.
Mods are how we can adjust the game. It doesn't matter if it takes 10 or 100 test mods to get it right, what matters is finding a mix of adjustments that correct the problems.
Once we know what the solution is, we can make a single fix mod to actually distribute more widely... you've identified an issue, let's let these guys have a shot a fixing it?
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