The Politics Thread (PLAY NICELY!)

everyone's interesting (or scary?) this year.

yeah it's Le Pen but i don't think anyone holds it against someone who says Lepen it happens even in france.

and yeah even though I am also personally interested in the Mélenchon phénomenon bottom line is : the only thing I want is for Le Pen to NOT hit office

my take : http://lacontreelection.com/

"Them dumbocrits are tying up the DEMOCRATIC system, we VOTED for the president and politicians should work WITH and NOT against our president elect!" ~dumbocrats, 2011; cuckservatives, 2017

Democrats definitely said this when Obama's ACA was failing. Gorbles said it as recently as page 80?

You know what? We BOTH know their "healthcare plan" was just as garbage as ACA, so I'm not EVEN mad. Maybe he'll forget the wall next, too? And the hookers, and the blackjack. Hell, maybe he'll forget the whole damn thing. I wouldn't even be mad, best president ever. If he forgot every stupid thing he was planning, I never thought i'd say this... but he'd have my vote for 2020.

x'D
people are so creative

any french politics questions?

When will you set your colonies free?

you have all the dates here : https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_des_colonies_françaises

you'd have to get Poutou elected as he makes it a point of order of his campaign

wish I had a rep vid capping this off but all I've got for now is comedy central : whatever.
check this out. NEVER have I ever seen such a ruthless backstab. Trump really is a prime *******.

Oh. How convenient.

Generally, if politics implode, that's great. If they do a vanilla repeal of Obamacare to be replaced with "literally f***'n noth'n", that's great too. Generally, politics haven't been great since the election, any better than before, which is what happens when generic politicians are elected in a bureaucratic gymnasium.

Politics should be simple, yet effective.

Actually, it's noteworthy to tag @Gorbles and @tatsujb to see this, because all the points are there. What's wrong with Hillary. What's wrong with Trump. How a libertarian can appreciate Bernie, despite him being "anti-libertarian". What an "ideal political environment" would have been, instead of "well we have to elect an extremist". "Well we have to elect an extremist", and many think we elected the wrong extremist, is what makes life almost not worth living. It really is, for everyone except the rich and the corporations, which can pay for the gymnastics to get what they want. Everyone else, life is unlivable, you get one, and you simply cannot live it because someone else has stopped you on the government-economic level.

are you not gonna comment on the paul ryan backstab and legit find a means to make this about hillary?

The paul ryan backstab is unnoteworthy, because of all the reasons stated in the video. Bureaucratic gymnastics, saber rattling, complex political relations, just some meta-game created by the establishment.

Absolutely not. Hillary, was only mentioned in context, because we ended up with Trump, and that's on topic now ain't it?

My response, to the "paul ryan backstab", is if politics implode and ties it's own hands up in drama, good for it, they'll focus on each other perhaps long enough to leave citizens alone for a bit. Best believe, when they're settled internally, we're back to being exploited again. That is my response. Politics should not be dramatized and overly complex. It should be like in the video. Like 90% of citizens would prefer it to be. Like any sane person would prefer it to be.

C'mon tatsu, you'd like the video, and I quote it, 10:15, "There are 2 things I believe about modern politics. One was, that any politician running for major office is smarter than me. The second was, that Hillary Clinton is hands down the worst. Both of those things, were disproven, by Donald Trump."

If you can't accept that, then you must somehow like Trump more than I. I certainly do bash him, I merely blame the DNC for his election.

JESUS! so long as you aren't the one PERSONALLY affected anything goes huh?
that sums you right up doesn't it?

That's another thing. You don't develop or explain this ... I doubt you can


but how is this an A to B logic?
what Trump can't stand on his own without mentioning Hillary to counteract him?


If that's the case then say that, don't casually say "Hillary was in context" as if that isn't the most blatant of lies.

For a guy who sure bitches and moans about lying all the time you sure do seem to have your affinity with the thing.

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Oh jeez, I must have missed the news, Trump must have gone off the deep end and shot paul ryan's mum right in 'er face, he did, aye?

*double checks* No, it's just the political theater. You're one of those people who'd scuff Nikes over #TeamEdward or #TeamJake, aren't you tatsu?

Why would you, he, they, or anyone else, be so sensitive over this tripe? If you like this stuff, you should DEFINITELY check out WWE.

Seriously, if he's so uncomfortable over the "backstab", maybe he should take some extra therapeutic time during his cozy rest from work in his rich lifestyle, to do whatever pastime he can so comfortably afford. I have to juggle finainces to buy a dollar freezer pizza for comfort food. I do not feel sorry for him, no.

Does anyone else here feel sorry for poor Paul Ryan?

Well, my friend lost their aunt this weekend. Feel sorry for them instead.

Paul Ryan isn't dying (from anything sans the "human condition" anyway, and much more slowly than we are at that), he'll be fine. Jackass politicians, they're the real ones who "so long as [they] aren't the one PERSONALLY affected[,] anything goes".

Again, that's my stance. You apparently love conservatives, or at least think they deserve great treatment politically and personally. You also seem to hate conservatives, they're cancer that oppress everyone else and everyone else dies of medical conditions due to their carelessness. Can it really be both? I'd agree, if only it were physically affecting their well-being. Their "feelings" can go to hell, the same destination their civics chose to go a long time ago.

you're basically validating Dictatorial setups at this point. And you wonder why your country's going to shiit...

You dare utter that, even as Trump fails to uphold a travel ban or a healthcare repeal? Dafuq's your evidence? France is a dictatorship. It's easy to call someplace a dictatorship, I'll be honest, I got nothing showing why it is.

Quit making shiit up, tatsu. The last 3 posts, had 7 source of evidence, showing I hate ANY strong government, especially dictatorships. The video. The quote against Trump. The disconcern over Paul Ryan's "heartbreaking backstab". The hope for government stalemate. The concern of government oppression of citizens. And. The desire for transparent simple non-technicality-riddled government.

7 sources of evidence that I love me suma dat dictatership, tatsu... and, go! *waives checkered flag*

I think where tatsujb is coming from is the principle that making hot air about Clinton is apparently news, but things that happen in the reverse (i.e. within the Republican party and / or the GOP by extension) are repeatedly played-down or classed as not being noteworthy.

Despite criticism of Hillary being a valid reason for not voting Hillary. Which makes it a primary motivator in how the country turned in the most recent election.

These things have to matter, because they mattered when it came to Clinton's electability (and more than that; why the DNC invested in her over Sanders wrt. perception of such. Nevermind his socialist values, which don't mesh with the DNC in general, but the basic principle of "who is more likely to win the election). These issues were levied against her to attack her image.

That's why these things matter when they happen now, during Trump's Presidency. I don't think "feeling sorry for Paul Ryan" has anything to do with it.

They're happening now, as a result. I voted libertarian, what the "people" elected were a banana republic more closely related to an Oligarchy a la Borderlands.

It's a fustercluck I implored people before the fact, knowing this is the stupidity I'd be held responsible for despite no reason to be at fault for it, to avoid. Hey, look at where we are. "Focus on the now, Hillary being unelectable was what doomed the country, Trump is a fascist, how could everybody allow this, everyone's responsible for this".

"Sane" people, as far as I'm concerned, and I've met plenty, don't blame anyone for it, they just recognize the lack of their own best interest in anyone else's stance. I detect a distinct lack of any interest toward me, in your very words, in matter of fact. Especially twisting them as "I'm evil". I'm evil? Then **** it, what's the incentive for me to care that politics is falling apart, I'm evil. As of right now, I'll take my pants off and drag my arse across the carpet as I take a wet poo, like the animal I'm labeled as. Won't make a difference to either of us anyway.

Good luck getting that government you seem to want though. Hope that when you get it, they actually treat you as you want. It only takes 1 person who's opinion differs from you, to make unrealistic videogames and media or vulgar music illegal or such products thrice as expensive with tax. That's a frequently-proposed thing in California, iirc. If they filter internet traffic to such medias in your jurisdiction, I won't lie, I'd find it hard to miss you when you think me an animal. I'd just think the oppression to be the real shame, the victims of the police state would probably elect such idiots because they "stand on the platform of 'civil' rights".