Tank is the most overpowered class

Product 3 would wreck most deployed gunners to be fair.

not a deadeye gunner. and that being said, how many rails is it to take down a gold armor gunner?

I think it's 7 assuming no product grenade damage. Probably would take 8+ assuming deploy 3.

Check my guide in my link. I'm at work.

7 for a gold armor gunner. so that means that you can miss 2 shots on a deadeye gunner before reloading. have fun with that.

All that matters is if the player can play to the Tank's strengths well enough that it overshadows his weaknesses-Slow Speed and huge hitbox.

Deadeye ran bronze armor I thought? It is a little easier when you hit them with a product nade which is 1-2 shots worth of damage, plus the blind acts as damage mitigation.

I'm not saying it's the common outcome, but it is doable. Gunners should still regularly win at mid range (out of jet gun range)

There's always the charge and the product grenade to close in to avoid mid range. I don't play tank so I can't say much but that seems like the easiest way to kill gunners as a tank.

Charging into a prespun dual mini is hazardous to your health. (though your body can suicide tackle him). Grenade can work, but the closer you get the easier it is for him to hit you regardless of the blind.

They can work against lesser players, of course. Charging a claw gunner is probably gonna get you pancaked.

By the same logic, any good sniper should kill everyone except tank in one shot, who takes two. Sniper has great bot control including ranged aoe, can generate juice and take down turrets in no time, and so can completely dominate the pvp and pve sides of the game. This entire argument is irrelevant because while every class has a lot of potential, it's never really realized in play. A class can't be considered overpowered until it just completely dominates at a high skill level, and to be honest, the closest class to that right now is Assault.



Pro tip: I didn't claim Assaults are overpowered. Reading comprehension is good.

After the update, I can juice at such a miniscule rate that if I'm not firing with explosive passive 3 rounds hitting multiple things I generate pretty much no juice at all.

I wasn't thinking of charging into him, I was thinking more of charging to reach him along with the product grenade to avoid mid range.

Doesn't really work well at all. I tend to run from gunners if caught mid-range.

I have yet to meet a single person who hits every shot reguardless of the weapon. Even if that person is the host.

railgun gold rate of fire only fires ~ 1.5 rounds per second and if it takes 5-7 rounds to kill a gunner then that is ~3.5-5 seconds - 1 second for product grenade ~2.5-4 seconds which is more than enough time for dual miniguns to cut through a tank and more.

Assualt 4-6 rail gun rounds 3-4 seconds - 1 for product grenade hit ~2-3 seconds.
Assuming your perfect god like tank the assault would lose.

One thing I feel missing from this discussion is the Assassin.

If shurikens are used properly, you can control a tank suprisingly well. Obviously you have to stay back from the tank lest they charge + spin = new Assassin corpse, but I always find it hilarious when a Tank begins attempting to attack me, maybe getting one rail gun on me before they retreat from the relentless onslaught of shurikens, especially when used with lvl 3 cloak crit.

Of course an Assassin can only take a few hits from a rail gun, but if you aren't brain dead, you'll take cover, heal faster than the Tank, and continue your shuriken barrage.

And I've played against some good Tanks. I have to be hella careful and only do it when I know I have nearby cover, but with the proper aiming, shurikens can control the large target that is the Tank.

At the moment I feel confident taking on any player in the game in a 1v1 and winning every time. It always takes at least 2 (and I mean at least). Like Billy said, if I don't kill you then you'll still end up backing down and not making progress. That said, who else in the game can do this? The tank isn't overpowered because it has a large skill gap. A great tank is the greatest force in the game, and if I'm not in that game, an average assault is.

Why haven't I heard of you before?

Actually, this couldn't be more true. A great Tank is damn near unstoppable 1v1 and sometimes 2v1.

Why were you guys all saying Seph was angry? You lot seemed a lot angrier at him for trying to make a point that you didn't agree with.

Eka, you know your forums. Every other topic on here turns into a flame war somehow, which is sad, but true

I have to admit that Shammas' tank style is the best against skilled opponents.

Against average and even good pub players, it doesn't matter so much how you play him. If you know his weapons and abilities well you will beat people 1v1 because you have lots of options at all ranges (including charge to run away when necessary!) Most people just don't know how to fight against tanks.

I have to lol at how many threads were about how bad the tank was, and now we have "Tanks are overpowerd sad-face" threads.

We've come full circle. Any day now we're due for "Supports are too strong" threads.