stopping units shooting at cliffs

Causeless · June 4, 2013

mistermaf said:

raevn said:

sower85 said:

If a fail limit of a few shots was built in, and if met, the unit changed position based on the flow field's cost, where the higher the cost, the more difficult it makes it to hit (if flow fields can be used in a combat context, as well as a movement context).
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This exact behaviour was present in TA when units were set to manouver. They would shoot a few times, and then relocate if they were hitting terrain (I think they only did this once or twice before giving up, but it's better than nothing, and that was 15 years ago).
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Or...you could just implement a line of sight system that would prevent the units in question from shooting at all if they cannot make direct sight on the target. Lots of games today do this. Wargame: European Escalation/AirLand Battle are great examples because they trace the unit's LoS with a line for you and show you exactly where it is that the view becomes obstructed.

Here are some quick examples from an early tutorial mission:

In this image, my unit is within range and line of sight and is preparing to fire on the target.

In this image, my unit is out of range of the target.

In this image, my unit is within range of the target but does not fire because its line of sight is blocked by the forest.

Because of the line of sight system, if there is a building, hill, mountain, edge of a minor change of elevation, forest, or any other obstruction between a unit and an enemy, it will automatically not fire and the player is informed why. This to me seems a lot more natural than having the AI attempt to fire at an enemy and then move somewhere else if they hit the ground...

And before you comment, a given game of Wargame has hundreds of units on the field at a time and doesn't struggle with processing LoS checks. Every individual tank in the above image is a unit that requires LoS and range to shoot, not just the group of four. You could have that group of tanks next to a building or coming over a hill and have half of them shooting and half of them not because of how some can see an enemy and some can't. That's done for every unit in hundreds of units in any given game. Processing isn't an issue.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but it appears most units there fire with completely straight projectile paths - how many fire in large arcs across the sky?

sab0t · June 4, 2013

i'm kind of hoping my units will keep firing until whatever was in the way has been disintegrated, whether it be a mountain, building, tree or otherwise :lol:

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