spawn killing?

That is unintended. While they intended for me to get on the spawn ring. I suck and am not very good at this game. And if I can get up there, it is because you and your team really suck.

Im not saying that it is only a problem in MNC - just saying as a practice, it is cheap, pathetic and ruins the experience (in any game).

Also - although its not an easily solvable (if at all) problem, there could be steps taken to make is less appealing to the sad creatures who partake in it...

Saying it is a problem in other games does not legitimize its existence in this game. Other games have nothing to do with the ease or the scope of spawn camping in this game. But people will continue to rationalize it in whatever way possible while they spawn camp.

it is a really good tactic to help your team win, if you can lock them down, destroy there turrets, their ball is going down because you can kill the pro's and the bots, meaning easy path for your bots to get it down and then you win.

so is shooting through glass panels, you can kill people and they can not do anything back.

shooting through glass panels is unintended that is the difference.

THERE IT WAS! someone bit the hook. so, its not ok to shoot through glass because it wasnt intended. BUT, with the spawn room, you cant see, shoot, or go into it; all things that point towards the fact that you arent supposed to kill people as they spawn.
checkmate.

Not yet. There aren't shields around the top ring, so they designed it so the other team can get up there. Your move Tom.

spawn camping is a legit strategy

whether the the team is grieving by not playing the objective is the issue

im not going to sit up in your base and taunt while i wait for my bots to take the shield down. i am going to slay to keep you from building turrets and killing my bots

to get at those camping snipers, thats the only reason. i guess.

I've commented twice (I'm not sure if one of them was deleted) but the Uber developers have mentioned sticking your gun through glass is a glitch, never have they said or even implied jumping on the enemy's upper ring is a glitch.

For the last time map awareness is key. Once you know there are spawn campers, organize your team to help get rid of them and press the offensive so the spawn campers have nothing to camp.

the thing is, you are rationalizing it and giving ways to defeat it, where i am saying that it should not be possible.

it is not possible. thus the spawn room. i also have said this before: play MW2 and then come back and tell me what you think of MNC's spawn campers.

spawncampers on MNC are at least an invertebrae if no more than that, whereas spawncampers on MW2 are no more than a bacteria and possibly less than that.

but it is defeatable. that does mean something. i said before that they could do something more against it, but im totally against losing all your money for spawncamping, or some way to kill a whole team if they spawncamp. it would make it too easy to defeat enemys that casually enter your base to destroy turrets and escort bots (and defeat the bots that try to enter), and not spawn campers at all.

the update is trying to add some heat vents to off-limit areas used to spawncamp, so lets see what that does before asking for more bail-outs on the topic. not that im against bailouts or not, lets not get into politics...


and after that, if you want you can try multiple spawnrooms, or two floors on the spawnroom with a jumppad inside, extra doors for the spawnroom, ect. but spawning is protected by a spawn room. pushing out of the spawnroom is a personal task.

but you dont die as soon as you spawn with no chance of preventing death, because you spawn in a protected room, so your not completely out of hope and the game isnt broken. devs can address other things ahead of this, if they make a sequel they can ponder into ways to stop spawncamping.

"Spawn Camping" is simply a User Error.

giggle giggle.
DeadStretch, you saying its user error is hilarious. I must have seen you say that like 50 times since Hudson originally said it.

Hudson, you do realize that the problem is that it CAN occur, not HOW it occurs? I kept underlining this previously in this thread, and you kept ignoring it. Your "answer" has no meaning in this context. I'll say it once again. Logical Fallacy. Logical Fallacy. Logical Fallacy.

Edit: Damn, you deleted your post fast Hudson. I'll repost it for you.

I deleted it because I knew it would take us down this exact same road that results in me spending far too much effort arguing a little trivial thing about this video game that ultimately boils down to whether spawn camping is a problem or not.

I don't perceive it as a problem that it can occur in the fashion that it currently does. You do. Sweet. Moving on.

Arguing with you is my least favorite thing to do on the forums, and I only posted because you said my name and I deleted it as soon as I realized I was about to go down that road again.

Well it does exist and isn't going away anytime soon. So figure out strategies or quit whining.

What is the point of this forum then? Many people suggest many things that will never be implemented. To remove that would be to get rid of about 75% of the material on here.