Soundtracks(Music for PA)

Discussion in 'Planetary Annihilation General Discussion' started by supremevoid, October 11, 2012.

  1. sabetwolf

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    The Planet Suite is great. I really do hope he takes a listen to that. Dat timpani :mrgreen:
  2. supremevoid

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    Neutrino how many Soundtracks can Howard produce with the orchestra before the bottle with money is empty?
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  5. LeatherNeck2382

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    For every game, each soundtrack has to fit the game's feel and pace. For example, some games that do this well are Sins of a Solar Empire, Homeworld, Supreme Commander, Hearts of Iron, and Command & Conquer (The older ones at least).

    There are many other great examples, but those are the ones off the top of my head. Personally, I like the transitional music that ebbs and flows between epic battle music and a dramatic "build up" music.
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    at least mention TA, it was the pinnacle of RTS styled music, a grand soaring orchestral combination that matched perfectly to the gameplay and which truthfully hasn't been matched or even challenged by any of the more recent RTS titles, a masterpiece in truth
  7. LeatherNeck2382

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    Not that I completely disagree with you, but I pinnacle is a tad of a stretch in regards to TA's Soundtrack.

    While I enjoyed TA's Soundtrack, I found it rather short and limited due to the small number of tracks. SupCom had many more tracks, which was why I mentioned it over TA. However, Sins, Homeworld, and HoI are probably the only games I listed that I never ended up listening to something else after awhile.
  8. cwarner7264

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    I'm really excited to hear what the soundtrack for this is going to be like! I'm definitely going to be checking out some of Howard Mostrom's previous work when I get the chance (have to confess I've not heard his stuff before).

    Was the Total Annihilation / Supreme Commander soundtrack by Jeremy Soule performed by a live orchestra? TA in particular certainly sounds like it was.

    As for suggestions, I know this game is looking to be a little more cartoony graphics-wise, but that's not necessarily a direction which I would imagine the music ought to take.
    That being said, one of my favourite pieces of all time has to be Building the Crate by Harry Gregson-Williams from the movie Chicken Run.

    More serious music-wise, I thoroughly enjoyed the soundtrack of the game Earth 2150 (example 1, example 2, example 3), particularly the ED portion which had a very industrial feel to it.
  9. cwarner7264

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    Personally the thing that gets me about TA's soundtrack is the 'building' music. I find it so very depressing! Not that that makes it any less beautiful in its own right, but I often find that I just put all the 'battle' music on loop to prevent myself from slitting my wrists ;)
  10. nestar2

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    I care about really awesome music,
    but honestly I do not care one bit about full orchestral music!

    I think it is an unnecessary expense just because TA had it does not justify to spend 200,000 Dollars for something you will hear for a few months. After that I am sure most people will listen to their own music which is not connected to the game making it worthless expense in the long run.
    I think 200,000 Dollars can be spend much better and
    in the fierce of battle you won´t listen to music anyway and
    normal music would do just fine.
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    You can't satisfy all of the people all of the time!
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    Just wanted to say, on the off chance that he reads this, Mr. Mostrom having had a listen to some of your past work I have complete faith that you will produce an utterly awesome soundtrack for this game. Enjoy the opportunity to use a live orchestra and send the tingles down our spines.
  13. LeatherNeck2382

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    I beg to differ.

    Not to say your opinion is bad, nor am I saying mine is better. However, I disagree when you call it unnecessary. Many good games have become great because of an excellent soundtrack, and having a full orchestra to go with the grand battles is icing on the cake.

    Could you seriously play C&C with TA music? No, it doesn't fit. Could you play TA with C&C music? No, it doesn't fit.

    Think about it. How many games do you fondly remember, and how many of them can you remember the music for? I still have the old C&C, TA, SupCom, and soundtracks for many other games.

    What kind of music are you wanting instead exactly anyhow? No music because there are people that might stop listening to it anyway? Besides, what exactly is "normal" music anyhow? I expect a game to have a soundtrack, and for it to be done well. Orchestral music is on par with epic, to which I expect many of PA's battles to me. I just don't see electronic music being epic.
  14. nestar2

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    I agree, as I said I do like awesome soundtrack and every game has its own soundtrack which is for sure best for it.
    But even if only the minimum goal had been reached the composer would be the same, so the music would be the same (but not orchestral recorded) and except from +sing all other features for example how music is triggered.
    You do not know if you would still like the music if TA had the same music without orchestra, if not the soundtrack is pretty poor and if yes well this game had a lot more money to spend and did all other expensive features too (for example SP campaign).

    I am sorry with "normal music" I mean the same music but without the orchestral expense (I did not want to say electronic music/soundtrack cause it could be understand as a genre). I agree that the soundtrack has to be done well, but as written above there is no difference expect using a very very high priced instrument, so to say.

    Everything in this game had to be epic, but after all this game has not an unlimited budget and some features like SP campaign which is in my opinion something an epic game needs is cut out.

    I agree campaign will be played in a few month and after that only occasionally which is basically the same tragedy soundtrack will suffer cause there will not be unlimited music and after some time you are not surprised anymore.

    After all UE decided that its worth it compared to the costs. Game with all features 9.5 % for orchestra (2.1 M total and 0.2 M orchestra) or if possible minimum game but with orchestra 18.1 % for orchestra (1.1 M total 0.2 M orchestra). I think that it is not worth it.
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    @Howard: Do not take that personally or feel down about my opinion I am totally confident that you will make the best out of it and know about the chance you had been given (+ you can add some more nice features ;) )
  15. LeatherNeck2382

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    That makes sense, but also take into account that even with improved technology to make good music electronically, a real orchestra "should" sound better overall, which I is more or less the point I am trying to make at its core.

    All good points, but I guess it is what boils down to is the value added to the individual. For me, I feel it is worth the cost, but for you it is not. I guess we can agree to disagree, but at least it was a civil discussion.
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    Agreed.
  17. supremevoid

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    I ask again: Can we get the soundtrack from the Kickstarter trailer even its not made with an orchestra?
  18. qwerty3w

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    Soundtracks still have some influence to the atmosphere of the game after you don't notice them anymore, so I think music is more of a long term thing than campaign.
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    I don't know if I'm the only one, but I still listen to the Total Annihilation sound track at work. It's not just epic videogame music, it's an epic suite period.

    I've heard the incredible effect a soundtrack can have on even an otherwise mediocre game (one of the main reasons I bought Trine2 was the awesome soundtrack) and I definately think that spending a large sum of money on good sound quality is worth every penny.

    Playing games in mute simply doesn't have the same appeal, and the soundtrack is over 50% of the sound the game makes. I daresay it's probably more important than the sound the rest of the game makes, even.

    Music unleashes such powerful emotions :)

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