Some of the achievements are excessively grindy.

Those values for the special bots still sound high to me. 2500 would be a lot on some of them.

Bouncers and Gremlins spawn like crazy in "the scramble." The only really rare bot is buzzer.

It is okay if the achievements are super grindy. They have no impact on gameplay.

Yeah, I guess so. Buzzers in particular are so rarely spawned that I guess dropping it lower would be appropriate.

It just seems more of an oversight. It will take near forever for any player to accomplish getting those achievements. Of course we can all say they have no impact, but if we start seeing servers on this game labeled "BUZZER ACHIEVEMENT GRIND" I will be pretty annoyed.

Just play "The Scramble" blitz. Only eliminator bots spawn during that variant of Blitz. Eliminator bots are Bouncers, Buzzers and Gremlins

I have better things to do than grind a achievement for killing Buzzers and Gremlins... like banging my hot wife.

But yet you have time to play Crossfire?

then you don't get them

I don't see what you're trying to get at. Yes, I can make time for a Crossfire game or two.

You're argument has convinced me that I clearly don't deserve these achievements. I guess leading a normal life was all I was good for.

You can kill, at least, 2x's the amount of eliminator bots during one game of Blitz then you would in 3 games of Crossfire. Time for some math again...

Look, I don't want to seem harsh about this, but you're trying really hard to justify what is perhaps an oversight. Achievements should either come naturally, or not take long to grind. If it takes someone 500 hours (it is probably not this long, but lets pretend) of constant Blitz play to kill 10000 Buzzers, then there is a problem with the achievement.

Put down your abacus and admit that it is unreasonable.

How is there a problem with the achievements? You do realize not everyone plays Crossfire, right? You do realize there are players who strictly play Blitz, right? I don't get what's so wrong with having achievements that cater to both crowds of the game? Why should more then half of the achievements be Crossfire based when there is a whole other game mode?

Sure some players find it pointless. There are just as many who don't.

You should just read my post again. It's not about whether it caters for Crossfire or Blitz, these achievements are unrewarding for what they are.

And the reward you get for the others are?

You've got to be trolling now.

Trolling? Not I. I am being serious.

Ok.

What they should be, simply a testament of ability at a game. Shooting buzzers and gremlins for a ridiculous amount of time is about as skillful as playing Desert Bus. There is simply nothing rewarding about it. If they made it so you unlock something awesome for doing it (like pro gear), people still wouldn't bother. This is probably worse than getting maximum prestige in any of the Call of Duty games. There is nothing to gain but the realization that you just wasted 500 hours of your life shooting buzzers out the air. How can you possibly not see that there is a problem with that.

Simple. There are players who play strictly Blitz. Like I said before more then half of the achievements are catered towards the Crossfire players. What do the Blitz players get for all their time and hard work?

I am surprised no concerns were raised about the 100 bacon pickups protag. I have played this game since August and across both XBox and PC I am lucky to have 10 Bacon pickups, let alone 100.

It's simple really, there are two game modes and the achievements cater to both.

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Since we are so fiercely divided over this, I think the best thing that can happen now is for the Admins to forward this on and decide based on what has been said. Honestly, I think there is a good reason to change the amount required, but if some people are seriously willing to attempt these lofty goals, then fair enough. Good luck you courageous assholes.

I had no idea achievements mattered that much in Steam. I supposed I should be glad I only have to worry about 12 measly achievements on the console and the corresponding Steam achievements are simply protags.

My problem with some achievements are this:

build or upgrade
5/2,500 lazer blazer. Lolwat?

destroy lazerblazer
50/2,500 - really?

destroy shavice
1/2,500 shave-ice. Again, what?


if only i COULD get 2,500 noobs to build lazer blazers. However, they die too easily for me to even get to them sometimes. The rest of the achievements are EASILY attainable, however destroying turrets is just UGGGGGGGG!