Push bots, destroy the moneyball.

Discussion in 'Monday Night Combat 360 General Discussion' started by Ninja Wallace, December 19, 2010.

  1. DeadStretch

    DeadStretch Post Master General

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    The countdown was increased from 5 seconds to 10 seconds for only Pro spawned bots.
  2. harpy515

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    I enjoy a full game as well a 2 minute one. Overtime is one of my favorite things a video game had done, because its so fast paced and exciting. Although the 2 minute dominations are fun as well.

    I just don't like when people on my team do neither, as in they don't push bots and they just sprint to the enemy spawns and die. Thinking that that is going to somehow help the team.
  3. lDeadEye

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    This thread is about me bitching at him. He joined me, Bolt, Dude, and Coug(already too much tryhard) and pushed a bot lane, put a firebase right infront of their bot spawn, took down their turret, juiced on the ball to 50%, then when it went up he went directly to the annihilator and hit it. I'm fine if you want to tryhard, just don't join my game and do it when I'm trying to have fun with friends. Sorry but I just don't see the fun or challenge in killing enough bots to juice on a moneyball.. All the 12 year olds that play this game really love that playstyle, but it's just not for me. So many kids rage quit in this game, I would rather play a 15 minute game with people leaving in and out, than a 2 minute game where they'll all quit and I'll sit in lobby for 10 mins.
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    I played with you yesterday and you had the same attitude, only with more ego and elitism thrown in...

    My solution? No more playing with deadeye.
  5. Ninja Wallace

    Ninja Wallace New Member

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    Then go play Call of Duty.

    Dude, you really do think everything revolves around you. Yes, I made this thread after those games. No, that's not why I made it. I made it because this has been happening consequentially with every party I join. I could easily list at least twenty people who've done this, but unlike most of this forum, I'm not concerned with slinging mud around.

    +1
  6. Randomdude02

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    What this really boils down to is a difference in playstyles. You don't like it, but there's absolutely nothing you can do about it. The best you can do is find your OWN group to roll with who plays with a similar mindset. Or, you can stay here fruitlessly attempting to enforce your views on others, and take Deadeye way too seriously.
  7. Ninja Wallace

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    Sorry, but if you want to play deathmatch, then go find another team that wants to do that with you. I don't go into lobbies and start playing bumper Tanks with a bunch of randoms, I invite some friends and we mess around. This isn't about our differences in playstyle, it's about playing the game how it's both meant and designed to be played versus actively avoiding it.
  8. Randomdude02

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    Sorry dude, but, like all games, the human factor is one you can't control. What you want, and what will happen, are two different things.

    And when one group plays team deathmatch, and another plays objectively, those are two different playstyles. So, when you are upset over someone playing one version as opposed to another in your presence, then it is indeed about a difference in playstyles.
  9. Ninja Wallace

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    Playstyle is an Assassin who upgrades dash first as opposed to one who upgrades passive. Avoiding the game isn't a playstyle anymore than it would be a playstyle for me to start up a game of Donkey Kong and hop in place for two hours.
  10. Randomdude02

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    Yes. Similarly, attacking only bots, or attacking only pros, would be another playstyle. One of these playstyles involves something you hate: only killing pros.

    Hopping in place for two hours, should you so choose to do so, would be a playstyle should anything be gained from it. There is nothing gained from it, and thus, it cannot be called a playstyle.

    Conversely, should a player choose to hunt down pros for 15 minutes, this shuts down the enemy team, giving free access to lanes, juice, ejectors, your teammates, and basically just puts the game in your favor. This yields results, and thus, can be called a playstyle.

    While killing pros isn't the objective of the game, it is necessary for a victory. Hopping in place in Donkey Kong is not.

    Don't argue for arguments sake. Give points that support your belief and will actually draw people to your point of view. Simply attempting to mindlessly disagree with what cannot be refuted will do nothing but cause others to question your posts.
  11. Ninja Wallace

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    It's really not though. Pro killing is entirely a side affect of map control. It is completely feasible that, in a match of equally skilled players, that no one will die and will instead opt to retreat back, thus losing less control then they would have if they had to sit through a respawn and denying coin to the opposing team. I'm not saying this is likely to happen, as it is human to err, but I am merely illustrating a point.

    Although you're right in saying I shouldn't be arguing with you, but that's only because you haven't really made a point beyond, "People are dumb, get used to it."
  12. Randomdude02

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    It is indeed entirely possible. Just quite unlikely. As is the idea of people suddenly deciding to play nice and go for the gol-, er, moneyball.

    And, what other point IS there besides that? It's people. It's the internet. It's Xbox live. This is where you'll see the worst in people. If you can't handle it, then I'm afraid you'll just have continued frustration for the rest of your gaming days unless you find a group that will go with you. I'm sorry, but that's just the way it is. Maybe it'll change someday. Maybe not. But, until then, not much you can do except find those worth a good game, or wait it out.
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    I'm not talking about randoms here. I'm talking about some of the best players on MNC. They should goddamn know better, and they should be above the standard. If a community can't improve, why have one?
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    Ah. Seems I was on a completely different wavelength here.

    Even so, I can't truly blame anyone for doing this. The rage quitting on this game is incredible. As Bolt said, unless it's a landslide victory, most people will leave. In this case, instead of setting an example, it really boils down to whose fun is more important.

    And, if it's a choice between mine, or someone else's off the internet, I'm afraid I'd pick mine every time.
  15. th3cozy

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    Sounds like you just need to find some different people to play with. Quality over quantity. Play with a couple people who match your playstyle and go from there. If you're playing with a full party of "some of the best in MNC" then how many "good" games do you really expect to have?

    I don't really understand everyone bitching about rage quitters, stop playing in a group of 6 level 400s and stomp level 20s.

    I've played a few private matches with shammas, feedle and a few others from here, there's no rage quitting in those matches.
  16. lDeadEye

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    LuLz.
  17. Ninja Wallace

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    Even if, for some inexplicable reason, I agree that playing the game like team deathmatch is okay...

    Why would you want to? How is that fun? Maybe I lack some key gene that makes mindlessly shooting people fun, but I just don't see the appeal of doing nothing but stomping everyone who leaves the gate. Challenge is what's fun.
  18. Randomdude02

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    There are several different reasons that may apply.

    Some enjoy mindlessly slaughtering any and all people they encounter.

    Others just don't want to try.

    Me myself, if I'm put up against people who just plain aren't as skilled, I plan to enjoy myself. Winning a game in under two minutes just isn't fun for me, as it's literally no challenge at all. Instead, I'll kill them, their turrents, maybe their bots if I feel it necessary. If people leave, I don't blame them. Rinse and repeat until a group of players with decent skill join, and now I have a game where I can try, and the game isn't over in no time flat.
  19. x Zatchmo

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    You're not lacking a gene, you just have a different opinion. It's natural.

    Also, some of the most fun games I've had on Monday Night were where I got separated from the party, and tried to win with the team I was on. Whether I won or not, it was usually fun. But again, I thought it was fun, that doesn't mean everyone should think this way. I could see you, based on your play-style, being separated form your party, playing the objective and winning. The game would probably go on for a while and everyone would get their fill of what they wanted to do. To me, that sounds like an awesome game of Monday Night Combat. :D
  20. PsiDebby

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    I see your point, and to a point I fully agree. For me the biggest issue with this game is the mid-match quitting, it is rather infuriating especially when it is near the end of the round just to protect their stats (assuming that your stats are only saved at the end of the round).

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