PTE build 79270-pte now up

Discussion in 'Planetary Annihilation General Discussion' started by jables, February 16, 2015.

  1. wondible

    wondible Post Master General

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    - A strike at the root of the orbital fabber problem: build arms may now have "assist_layers" and "reclaim_layers". Orbital and the rest do not interact in vanilla setup.
    - "can_only_assist_with_buildable_items" moved to the build arm. (no longer on orbital fabber)
    - change in units with multiple-barrel weapons (dox, leveler, battleship):
    "projectiles_per_fire"; multiple tool instances turned into multiple muzzle bones
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  2. Sorian

    Sorian Official PA

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    More changes coming on this front, by the way.
  3. mered4

    mered4 Post Master General

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    That sounds promising! I'll give these a go and see what comes out. Then I'll wait for the next step.... :D
  4. mikeyh

    mikeyh Post Master General

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    Multiple crashes in the tvinita team game on 78783-pte with lobbyID: 6746676459226903590

    First crash:

    Code:
    Thread 0:: Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread
    0   com.uberent.pa.client             0x00000001016a8401 crom::RasRenSceneViewport::getCulledMeshes(crom::RasRenSceneViewport::DrawBucket&, crom::RasRenSceneViewport::SceneInfo const&) + 1553
    1   com.uberent.pa.client             0x00000001016a5afd crom::RasRenSceneViewport::beginFrame() + 3453
    2   com.uberent.pa.client             0x000000010161d589 crom::RasRen::present() + 249
    3   com.uberent.pa.client             0x00000001011a6fdf client::ClientGame::updateAndPresent(crom::Profiler&, float) + 4783
    4   com.uberent.pa.client             0x0000000101557a1a crom::SDLPlatform::runGame(crom::Game*) + 666
    5   com.uberent.pa.client             0x000000010154fd02 main + 274
    6   com.uberent.pa.client             0x00000001011578f4 start + 52
    
    Reconnected and could not see any units.

    Eco bars were active, could see a nuke explosion but all planets were empty of units.

    Reconnected and crashed again:

    Code:
    Thread 0 Crashed:: Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread
    0   com.uberent.pa.client             0x00000001028a29cd client::UnitWatchList::sendIdleUnitUpdates(client::UIBridge*) + 301
    1   com.uberent.pa.client             0x0000000102763c78 client::Client::postUpdate() + 1816
    2   com.uberent.pa.client             0x000000010284aee4 client::ClientView::postUpdate(float) + 212
    3   com.uberent.pa.client             0x0000000102797749 client::ClientGame::updateAndPresent(crom::Profiler&, float) + 2585
    4   com.uberent.pa.client             0x0000000102b48a1a crom::SDLPlatform::runGame(crom::Game*) + 666
    5   com.uberent.pa.client             0x0000000102b40d02 main + 274
    6   com.uberent.pa.client             0x00000001027488f4 start + 52
    Reconnected with nomods again and crashed with same as above.

    Managed to reconnect again and still no units displayed.
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  5. cola_colin

    cola_colin Moderator Alumni

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    The 2nd stacktrace is pretty close to what was reported here: https://forums.uberent.com/threads/rel-pa-stats-74525.50690/page-40#post-1072243
  6. thetrophysystem

    thetrophysystem Post Master General

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    Oh christ, you mean to tell me, that you are going to break ALL of our mods?
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  7. cola_colin

    cola_colin Moderator Alumni

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    they love to do that ;)
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  8. thetrophysystem

    thetrophysystem Post Master General

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    This is a big one though. Like changing firing to fired.

    But, at least it shows signs of improving functionality and adding some game hooks, rather than just breaking for the sake of breaking.

    Nonetheless. While they are doing it, they can at least add "unittype_1" - "unittype_9", and for observable add "observable1" - "observable9", and junk. For modders. So we can add stealth units, and factions, without borrowing tags from existing units.
  9. cola_colin

    cola_colin Moderator Alumni

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    I don't see how that is a big change.
  10. nixtempestas

    nixtempestas Post Master General

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    And this is why you make dev tools. I can rebuild most of my mods in under a second. If things really go crazy in the files, it might take a minute to reconfigure. Profit.

    Not that any of my mods are in any way complicated...
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  11. nixtempestas

    nixtempestas Post Master General

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    that might cause havoc to balance mods
  12. mot9001

    mot9001 Well-Known Member

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    Since there is more in the game then dox, definitly a l2p issue. Dox aint the fastest raiding unit. Also, people won't get any time to get used to balance lately since balancechange spamming so they can't even learn to play the best because they need time to learn.
  13. nixtempestas

    nixtempestas Post Master General

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    the balance spam is only really a PTE thing though, as it should be.
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  14. mered4

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    What is a l2p issue? I know the ropes on dox - I just don't want to use them or master them. I admit their effectiveness, nonetheless. What am I missing here? What is nix missing?
  15. mot9001

    mot9001 Well-Known Member

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    I kinda think that if players get better at a specific balance the strategys get a lot more refined over time, i think fast dox already have a lot of counters, and also, why aren't any other units slowed down if the map needs to feel big?
  16. Planktum

    Planktum Post Master General

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    And this time in english...
  17. wondible

    wondible Post Master General

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    Orbital fabbers can assist orbital factories again.

    Assist and reclaim between the orbital and non-orbital layers is no longer possible.

    Projectile stuff only affects modders.
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  18. exterminans

    exterminans Post Master General

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    Unfortunate side effect....

    Now only a single orbital fabber can participate in the construction of a teleporter. And if the construction is interrupted in any way, it can no longer continue.

    EDIT: Ok, two fabbers can share the work if they BOTH had the command to START construction. But if one is set to assist the other, it can no longer do so.
    Last edited: February 28, 2015
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  19. zx0

    zx0 Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, orbital fabbers should better move to air layer to build on the ground. We would need build_layers and buildable_types for build arms and active_layers for all tools then.
  20. igncom1

    igncom1 Post Master General

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    I still don't like them building gates at all.

    That should be surface fabbers job, especially with the unit cannons firing advanced fabbers.
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