PA Alpha Build: 49731

Subs (once they work properly) will be below the surface of the water (duh) and can only be spotted by sonar so you could send a group of subs and they wouldn't get spotted unless the enemy has sonar coverage. At least that's what I'm thinking.

I understand that. I am asking what are you going to do with this feature that is useful? What strategy do you envision having this ability gives you? All water structures are visible on the the surface.

Simulation terminated in every battle so far with this build (after about 20 minutes)

Perhaps they will add submerged buildings as well, too early to tell.

HARMS Yes please!

Mike

I've only played a testgame or two, but one of them contained roughly 30 t1 bot factories making so many bots that the PA client used nearly 2GB of ram and run at below 5fps with massive lags. But it was stable all the time.
What did you do?

The sub is no longer built in T2 factories.

Dunno, crashed in every single game with termination, looks a lot like the same thing that happened in the beginning of the alpha

Oh God not them again. My seraphim T3 subs never stood a chance.

Yeah, I have gotten this 3/4 games I played in today.

secretly putting jellyfish mines all up in their water ways

With the newest patch the game gets kinda laggy once a certain number of units is reached (this was announced):

Will this improve in the future?
It is not unresponsive, but the units stutter while moving.

That's the bandwidth throttling in action.

On the specific question of "Will this improve in the future?", this answer will always be "yes". This is alpha, everything is early.

I suspected this. But it is still awesome to know the simulation continues at full speed and is not slowing down, just my connection catching up.

it might not be your connection though, bandwidth throttling pretty much means that uber can't afford to throw infinite bandwidth at the users and they therefore have to put a limit on how much they can send as max per user.

correct me if I'm wrong.

EDIT:
as a reference, I have monster lag after some minutes

It's definitely a limitation of the server, this will hopefully improve by better servers and a more efficient netcode with the later being more important, since currently it might be problematic for people with weaker internet.

We have the cap set where it is so we can try to get the behavior on low-bandwidth better rather than just ignore the issue. The cap is still fairly high, but it's there so when we're running the game locally we're still seeing the cap that exists when actually running over a network so we're not surprised when we try a live game.

when the v49789 post will be live and evailable in the tracker?

i need to report this problems!
no textures on the planet at all! and i see the start locations also to the moons.




thanks

p.s thanks for the update and the new moon textures

p.s sorry for the huge resolution

The "comma" key has never initiated such a silly command

Until an official post:

Build 49789:

• MOOONNNSSS.. You'll see what we mean
• Fixes for a couple different simulation terminated issues
• Fix hover details on radar blips (no more cheating!)
• Added new water decals for multiple biomes
• Nuke explosion now oriented properly
• Aircraft speed overall increase
• Artillery boosted a bit

Air Scout:
Acceleration: 350 => 1100
Brake Rate: 35 => 1100
Max Speed: 70 => 110

Bomber:
Acceleration: 6 => 8
Brake Rate: 6 => 8
Max Speed: 60 => 75

Adv. Bomber:
Acceleration: 6 => 8
Brake Rate: 6 => 8
Max Speed: 60 => 75
Turn Speed: 45 => 30

Fighter:
Acceleration: 30 => 90
Brake Rate: 30 => 90
Max Speed: 60 => 90

Adv. Fighter:
Acceleration: 30 => 90
Brake Rate: 30 => 90
Max Speed: 60 => 90

Artillery:
Range: 150 => 250
Damage: 120 => 175
Splash Damage: 120 => 175

Tank:
Weapon Pitch range: 20 => 40

Adv. Tank:
Weapon Pitch range: 15 => 40