Orbital gameplay

iron420 · February 13, 2014

Nightovizard said: ↑

Space ships? Shields? Beam weapons?
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All confirmed "No"s unfortunately. Check out the confirmed features list Mike posted. I think it's a sticky

iron420 · February 13, 2014

Pendaelose said: ↑

Oooo Oooo Ooooo!!! I JUST had a fun idea on how to facilitate deep space ship to ship, or even fleet combat in the celestial UI.

Ok, so Interplanetary ships would have the option to use the celestial UI similar to the planet builder, and we could set our ships into independent orbits around the sun, planets, moons, etc.

Each ship would have a spherical "guard radius" similar to current units.

When a friendly ship enters the radius they join up and share an orbit.

When an enemy spaceship enters the radius you engage in combat.

If the enemy is the same mass you both share the same orbit until victory or death.

If a ship is smaller than it's target it begins orbiting the target during combat

You could get some really interesting battles. For example, Team A has 1 big ship and 1 small ship. Team B has 2 medium ships. The medium ships would orbit the big ship while attacking, and the small ship would orbit one of the mediums. If combat orbits were non-planar you could get some crazy cool looking battles while they shoot it out.

I need to add "Please enable celestial orbit commands in blueprints" to my Uber-Modding-Wishlist.
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Neutrino himself shot down a similar idea I posted way back when the orbital thread was huge (and actually threw a little trantrim about it :S). I was suggesting treating orbital units the same as celestial bodies.

Pendaelose · February 13, 2014

iron420 said: ↑

Pendaelose said: ↑

Oooo Oooo Ooooo!!! I JUST had a fun idea on how to facilitate deep space ship to ship, or even fleet combat in the celestial UI.

Ok, so Interplanetary ships would have the option to use the celestial UI similar to the planet builder, and we could set our ships into independent orbits around the sun, planets, moons, etc.

Each ship would have a spherical "guard radius" similar to current units.

When a friendly ship enters the radius they join up and share an orbit.

When an enemy spaceship enters the radius you engage in combat.

If the enemy is the same mass you both share the same orbit until victory or death.

If a ship is smaller than it's target it begins orbiting the target during combat

You could get some really interesting battles. For example, Team A has 1 big ship and 1 small ship. Team B has 2 medium ships. The medium ships would orbit the big ship while attacking, and the small ship would orbit one of the mediums. If combat orbits were non-planar you could get some crazy cool looking battles while they shoot it out.

I need to add "Please enable celestial orbit commands in blueprints" to my Uber-Modding-Wishlist.
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Neutrino himself shot down a similar idea I posted way back when the orbital thread was huge (and actually threw a little trantrim about it :S). I was suggesting treating orbital units the same as celestial bodies.
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I don't expect it to be included in the main game, but it would be great if we have the support needed to see it in a mod.

Nightovizard · February 13, 2014

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To sum up with concept ideas (look at my incredible Paint skills):

Interestellar transport

Its an interestellar transport that is able to transport multiple ground and air units to other planets. It's an orbital unit capable of landing in the planets surface. Would be excellent If you plan to invade an enemy planet that has been fortified.

When the ship is landed, It has doors at the sides with ramps to load and unload ground units. And a frontal door for air units to land and to take off too.

It doesnt have any weapons. So if it goes alone is very vulnerable.

Interestellar factory carrier

Its an interestellar factory carrier that is able to produce and then transport multiple ground and air units to other planets. It's an orbital unit capable of entering the planet's atmosphere, but not able to land.

When the ship is on the planet's atmosphere, It has a door at the front where air units land and take off. Ground units are deployed using drop pods, they cannot be loaded again(unless these are aircraft or single-transport-dropships are used).

It has 1 antiorbital canon (Gauss?), and antiorbital missilepods. (only attacks the other orbital units).

In addition, it also can produce and use nukes and antinukes missiles, so it can protect the assaulting ground nuits from nukes, and even give them the advantage of having nukes too. Which would make planet invasions and the construction of teleporters to support your troops way easier.

Interestellar battleship

As interestellar transports dont have any weapons, and that carriers are very expensive, you would need other ships that are only designed for orbital battle and that are able to travel to other planets.

It's only an orbital unit, cannoth enther the atmosphere neither landing on planets.

It has 3 antiorbital canons (Gauss?), and antiorbital missilepods. (only attacks the other orbital units). (maybe another weapon too).

Space elevator ship factory

Its he building used to produce spacecrafts, such as the interestellar transport carrier and battleship.

It cna only by built by orbital builders.

This structure is both ground and orbital type, so it can be attacked by any type of unit. Ships are produced directly in the planet's orbit.

Gauss antiorbital canon

Its an antiorbital gauss cannon turret placed in the ground, basically a different way to target all kinds of orbital units, its less powerful than the umbrela, but is cheaper and uses less energy.

this would make carriers and other orbital units keep a distance since early stages of the game.

Reasons why i think all these would be great additions to the game, and not just a mod:

how i would answer the questions:

- How do any space vehicles interact in orbit? Also, how do they interact with units on the ground?

Well, how the actual orbital units interact with one another? how the ground interacts with them? The same would be applied to those spacecraft, as they would be just orbital units, with the capacity to travel betwen planets (just as the egg, exactly the same). basically orbital units would fight against other orbital units. nevertheless, maybe theres space for a unit capable of orbital bombardment but that would require important balancing edits (Although i think this last thing would be more for a mod).

- If you already have multiple planet, multiple moon and asteroid bases and combats going on, you’re now adding in ALL THE SPACE in between them as war zones you have to keep track of. Without a ten monitor setup, how would you keep track of that many more potential, arbitrary playfields?

It's not necesary to add ALL THE SPACE around as if it was a battlefield, this is planetary annihilation, this is a battle ON planets: Ground, water, sky and orbit. These ''space'' battles would only happen in the planets orbit, and would be the responsibles of droping,unloading and releasing the air or ground units these dropships or transports were transporting. The unit called ''the egg'', wich is an spacecraft that is able to transport 1 single unit between planets, it's the best example. Just that in this case it would be able to transport multiple units and start planet invasions as well as setting a perimeter for building teleporters.

considering all that and that the whole core play is based on battling on planets, and not giving a special importance to only 1 of its parts (Ground, air, water and orbit), this would be, in my opinion, one of the best, if not the best option as players could not just spam orbital units to win a game, but they would need ground units too. (As these spacecrafts cannot attack ground, but ground can attack these spacecrafts).

Teleporters need to be built , how do you pretend to build a teleporter in a fortified enemy planet? you need an strategy for doing that, is not valid to say, so as it is well defended, there is nothing more i can do about it. It's useless to send units using the unit cannon because as soon as they land , they get destroyed 1 by 1. So the only option is to destroy it with an asteroid, and hope that the asteroid does not get destroyed by the defenses of that fortified planet.

The units I exposed above are the ones that could make the difference, and make the invasion of a fortified planet, posible. This way the invader has more choics, and it's harder for the defender to choose which types defenses is he going to build.

You say that planet has a lot of nukes so your army would be decimated? well then why not having antinuke missiles too? Using the interestellar carrier is a good example. This way you could use nukes against them too.

Thats what i think it could be oficial. Then for a mod the features that mods could add are:

- Planet siege spacesips, so they are capable of doing orbital bombardments.
- Spaceship with teleporter.
- Energy shield generators to defend from orbitla bombardments.
- New antiorbital units and defenses.
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well maybe this does not have relation at all, but is about transports as well. Apart from all that, another posible good addition would be having naval transports, that are fast and that can transport multiple ground units. That would be a good option if youre playing in a oceanic planet, and if the enemy has too many AA units.

MrTBSC · February 13, 2014

Yes to big Hovertransport ... but unarmed

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