Low RAM warning

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  1. bengeocth

    bengeocth Post Master General

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    any ideas?
    bengeocth, September 9, 2014
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  2. varrak

    varrak Official PA

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    I know this is a silly question - but did you restart the system after installing the drivers? Sometimes driver install can be funky. Other than that, I don't have a whole lot to go on. There may be a command line option you can use to disable some advanced features that may prevent the crash (it's hard to diagnose here...)
    varrak, September 9, 2014
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  3. websterx01

    websterx01 Post Master General

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    You! Focus on RAM! :p I'm running out of money to buy you that alcohol! (Gas is painful)

    By the way, great job so far!
    websterx01, September 9, 2014
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  4. varrak

    varrak Official PA

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    Well... that was fun.

    Turns out, there were a few textures in the game that were a bit large. I've dropped them a bit (for example, the nuke scorch decal was 4096x4096, and there's 2 textures, for a grand total of 32MB (compressed). I dropped to 1024x1024, no quality difference, for a grand total of 2MB (compressed) or a savings of 30MB - twice (so actually 60MB)! (backing store plus GPU memory).

    I also dropped resolution on some unit textures that were too big. Total savings so far are around 300 to 400 MB GPU side, plus the same system-side; on an integrated system, that's a total of around 600 to 800MB of system memory (since the resources are mirrored).

    Almost 1GB.

    No code changes yet.

    So far, so good.
    varrak, September 9, 2014
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  5. cola_colin

    cola_colin Moderator Alumni

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    Short reports of what you guys are actually currently doing on the game are awesome. I want more of that!
    cola_colin, September 9, 2014
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    selfavenger, September 10, 2014
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  7. Corang

    Corang Well-Known Member

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    That is awesome, can't wait to get these. +600 to 800 for you in Corang points :p
    Corang, September 10, 2014
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  8. cwarner7264

    cwarner7264 Moderator Alumni

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    @cdrkf you're SOL with that 840MB wager I'm afraid ;)
    cwarner7264, September 10, 2014
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  9. cdrkf

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    Well no one else bet against me so I'm still the closest haha! Sorry Varrak I underestimated your memory zapping powers!
    cdrkf, September 10, 2014
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  10. varrak

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    Wait! Wait! I'm not done yet...
    varrak, September 10, 2014
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  11. websterx01

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    Does me offering to buy him a beer/s at 1gb count?
    websterx01, September 10, 2014
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  12. varrak

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    You know that it does. ;)
    varrak, September 10, 2014
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  13. cwarner7264

    cwarner7264 Moderator Alumni

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    I love how @varrak has basically adopted this thread.
    cwarner7264, September 10, 2014
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  14. philoscience

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    Go ninja go ninja go!

    philoscience, September 10, 2014
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  15. zweistein000

    zweistein000 Post Master General

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    My question is: Is there any memory saving that can be done with the UI and planets loading? I don't mind the slowdowns nearly as much as I mind loading up after auto start has happened
    zweistein000, September 10, 2014
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  16. gunshin

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    AFAIK 32bit programs are restricted to roughly 2GB even though the architecture supports about 3.4GB. Could be wrong, but i have hit this problem myself in certain situations.
    gunshin, September 10, 2014
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  17. SXX

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    Just want to share my findings about recent problems with in-game crashes or "low RAM" messages.

    As I find out there is many Windows users who have non-standard settings for "page file / virtual memory", especially SSD users who usually disable it for drives on SSD and forgot to enable it on 2nd/3rd HDDs. As result Windows have no page file to unload background processes from RAM when PA memory usage increased.

    As solution that confirmed as working for 10+ players you need to make sure there is page file with 12GB minimal size available. It's doesn't decrease game performance, but fix crashes that usually looks random (not related to drivers and other things).
    SXX, September 10, 2014
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  18. maxcomander

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    I have played on some pretty big systems (I like to test the limits) and the most I've seen is around 12-13gb use. however at that point the sim speed is down to 1-2 fps so you can't really play the game at that level yet anyway..
    maxcomander, September 10, 2014
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  19. websterx01

    websterx01 Post Master General

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    2900r will Max out 16gb of RAM, just in the system editor.
    websterx01, September 10, 2014
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  20. Remy561

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    Windows 8.1 seems to automatically pagefile on my HDD instead of on my SDD. It also automatically gave me 16gb it seems. Nice job windows :)
    Remy561, September 10, 2014
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