LeaderBoards

Why dont you take a look for yourself... few of us have played the game since monday and theres absolutely no possible way that people could have caught up us or gotten over a million or a billion for that matter... I'm sitting at a hefty +500k lifetime earning which should put me at second. But due to hackers i'm like 6th. There is no envy here whatsoever. Also the wins latter has been hacked now too.

This isn't a direct quote nor an official statement by Uber, but what I can remember is XShadowStormX something to the effect of, "There isn't really anything we can do. Banning is up to Microsoft." Now, I don't know how the leaderboards are populated, but I would imagine that Uber has the power to completely reset them. However, this would hurt much more people than those few hackers.

So it's pretty much up to MS to take care of them. Unfortunately, MS takes a while to verify them as hackers cuz they don't want the same thing to happen to them that happened to Valve with the thousands of MW2 players on Steam. So we'll just have to wait and see what happens.

Coming into this thread, was hoping it's a pitch for the idea of implementing web-based leaderboard so we can link it in our (other) forum sig.

my score just recent, and i had a legit score, that's really ******* stupid since i didn't do anything wrong and im being punished for nothing

Trgga.. They cannot reset your score.. that is an XBL error, check your profile sign-in status..

If the could reset the Billion score players would have been wiped already.. as they are modders who have already been banned by Msoft.

I was just ensuring that the hacked leaderboard was true, I had not seen the people who have ridiculously unreal scores until later, I think my leaderboard was not updating at some point, but yes, as stated on the other thread, I know it has been hacked and have sent a couple twitter messages to some Microsoft friends..

The people who have those scores are not valid gamertags or XBL accounts.. however they have a newer mod setup that is being combated by XBL and MSoft.. these people somehow were able to DL the game before they were booted from XBL, but the leaderboards would have to be "completely purged" to remove their names.

Sucks that cowardly hackers can ruin the leaderboards, but they will never ruin the game as it is so much fun on its own.

The leaderboard issue is unfortunate but it is something that as far as I know cannot be fixed.

Here is what I know.

I know how to mod the leaderborads and it is quite simple really and I am not trying to be stuck up but the issue is UBER's own fault. The files that store your data are completely unprotected and their is currently no cross check with the leaderboards before updating. I believe that probably one of the best solutions would simply be to not allow the leaderboard to add more then 25k points per game, because honestly that in itself is pretty darn high {I'm a decent player and usually top out at 5-9k points per crossfire}

As for dealing with the issue. It can't really be dealt with unfortunately It is something similar to COD, the leaderboards are DEAD and will most likely never be resurrected.

-Wiping the leaderboards is a horrible idea and would only upset legit players, even more so when modders immediately return to the top.

-As of now modders can mod any attribute that the game stores... Kills, deaths, time played, money earned, money on hand, bot kills, custom classes.

-It is impossible to tell if a player has modded {unless it is obvious} because they can make themselves seem as legit as they please.

-Modders can also move themselves about the leaderboards as they wish because of the way the game updates scores they can move up or down at will.

-Punishment is also an issue that cannot really be dealt with. It is all in the hands of Microsoft which honestly are huge pus** foots when it comes to giving people the boot and banning them.

-Here is a direct quote taken from another site from the #1 player with 2billion points McLovinMods (aka 77359400 in hex)

-My guess is that shortly we will see a player with 2147483647 points which is the highest hexedecimal number possible in this type of endian it is 4 bytes {7f ff ff ff}

-Lastly I believe that unfortunately updates will never be able to fix this leaderboard hacking issue unless there is one crucial decision made. UBER would have to make the Update wipe all current data every time it is installed money, classes, etc. Otherwise modders could just mod the game without a potential future fix patch and then update while keeping all their mods and essentially bypassing the patch. The problem is that the xbox only has a certain cache size which generally can hold about 5-6 title updates therefore if you were to play MNC and then play 8 other games (that have updates) and then return to MNC you would unfortunately be wiped.

-Possibly UBER could use a form of encryption on the gpd file but I still believe that would only act as a stalling mechanism. Just taking for example L4D2 which came with a already know public encryption type that was cracked within days of release by UnknownV2.

-A last option would be storing player data on servers rather then the players own xbox but that would most likely cost a lot of money especially when you consider the game has 50k players and growing within 2 days of official release.

wow
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That is my two cents toward the issue. Maybe this post will get me banned I don't really care. It's all I signed up for. Hopefully this post can help make a decision on what to do about fixing the leaderboards.

PS I love your game UBER. Spot on work!

PPS It's gonna need a lot of glitch fixing though. There is already an exploit that is fairly annoying involving other teams spawn camping while invincible.

-Also THIS MUST BE FIXED. You can currently preform many actions while in any animation
eg.
shoot while taunting, heal while taunting, shoot while being grappled, heal while upgrading, shoot while upgrading, etc, etc...

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We are aware of the issues and are exploring possible actions... It's not a trivial problem to solve, if it's solvable at all.