JUICE FREE GAME MODE(hardcore)

That's all based on killing though. Wouldn't it be a little better if the support gained juice for hacking turrets (including his own), or if snipers took down a turret or something?

Or maybe just have juice for killing bots...

I second that idea!

But wait...was I meaning juice for killing bots, or juice boxes only appear when you kill a bot?

...What?

Bot juice only is an excellent idea, in my opinion.

The one problem is if the only way to get juice boxes is killing bots and picking up dropped juice is then long distance kills never get juice.

If supports could get juice from hacking, maybe the recharge time of hacking would have to be nerfed, or they get so very little juice from it. Otherwise Supports will get juice faster.

How about a mode where everyone is juiced for the entire game?

maybe

I would think a juice free game mode would be more aptly named easy mode rather than "hardcore". Removing juice would slow the pace of the game considerably. Also, without juice the money ball dies considerably slower, so in any game where one team greatly out matches the other you would have a long drawn end game rather than the winning team being able to mercifully destroy the moneyball quickly. It really seams like a game type that would be favored more by lesser skilled players.

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a part of me thinks, hey I dont mind that, the other part realizes it would be pretty hard to push, be you a player killer or a manly tank to wreck all the turrets. this would stop people from juice rushing and getting money right back, however would make turtles even more annoying. and turtles do not win games, but they make it alot harder to. so get your juice, go into peoples houses, and WRECK UP THE PLACE. AWROOOOOOOO

I play to kill other pros, I defend my base attack theirs but I'm in it for crushing my opponents, even if they win by destroying the money ball when I have 41/4 KD for the match I don't give a rat's *** if I lost, what I do hate is rushing the enemy base and my teams Supports dropping Firebases and letting thos e win the match in the first 3 minutes. Me and my friend say that the FB shouldn't be able to attack the money ball.
I say there should be 2 crossfire modes, one where only pros can damage the ball, for those who want to win badly and the other where only bots can damage the ball, so pros can run around and kill eachother for sport.

so, you want team deathmatch too, thats all you had to say...

at least you might as well say that. theres nothing wrong with it, its a common idea. im not even saying deadeye is a bastard for wanting it, if he wants to play that then its his wishes.

in mw2, everyone plays sabotage. do they play it to get control of the bomb, get control of the enemy spawn around the objective, plant on the objective, and defend the planted bomb? HELL NO! its to get the bomb stuck 50000000 million meters in the air or inside a brick wall or some other glitch, just so they can get 500-3 against the enemy trying to get the bomb, so they can all call in a nuke at the same time and the map gets nuked 6 times in a row, 2 seconds before the end of overtime, meaning the game has lasted 22 minutes, 58 seconds. the team could have won 2 minutes into the game, but wants kills.

im somehow sure that deadeye and jimcognito has played sabotage on mw2. "hey, dont plant the bomb, let the game go on until overtime and get kills, nobody plant the bomb"

for that matter, i played hardcore search&destroy, the game that skill lasted the longest in before the whole game officially plunged into unfair unfun unplayable garbage. s&d has one life and a bomb-plant/bomb-defend objective, so for the longest time it was proving gound for who could use the hardest-to-kill-with or amazing weapon, and who could throw a throwing knife 200 meters, and who could diffuse the bomb on overtime with 6 enemies still alive and your all thats left on your team. I HID NEAR MY OBJECTIVE, WATCHED AS THE ENEMY PLANTED THE BOMB, AND SIMPLY SNUCK UP AND DIFFUSED IT RIGHT WHEN HE LEFT TO GET A DISTANCE AWAY. I WAS 1 ON 6 AND IT WAS THE GAME-WINNING ROUND. HAD THEY NOTICED I WOULD HAVE DIED AND LOST THE WHOLE THING. WIN! NINJA! DIFFUSE! WIN!

(actually, diffusing sneakily was my only chance, as im not going to kill 6 people hiding watching the bomb, they are all behind cover and all watching each other. by not killing any of them, i avoided them knowing where i was and killing me, which i happened to be on the bomb)

add a game type wheres the no juice stands, you get juice yourself then you can use it, if not, no juice for you, this would have people having loads of money of course and building turrets, spawning bots, you get the point, would be pretty fun

^this

juice shouldnt be definitely better than turrets. juice shouldnt be definitely better than bots. juice shouldnt DEFINITELY be a no-brainer as a substitute to 80% of your skill upgrades (which a lot of people do go without almost any upgrades just to buy juice...)

I would love to see a game type like this. Thankfully in Private matches you will soon have the option to toggle buying juice.

luckily tournaments use private matches

It sounds like Uber is against new game types because of the risk of splitting the community. An easy fix would be to make a couple crossfire maps in the map cycle without the juice machines and test them in the community.

I'd like this. A match with no outside food or drinks. *runs away*