Discussion in 'Planetary Annihilation General Discussion' started by nofear1299, July 24, 2014.
Tell that to Youtube, or twitch
Have you NOT seen YouTube comment sections? Those can be warzones!
Or little gold mines of witty comments.
THIS. and reddit, and tumbler, and 4chan and steam community and....
I'm trying to find the right analogy but this is fuxing Soylent Green. the exact oposite of that sentence would have been the truth.
What do you mean "can"?
There's a couple nice ones, most however...
not since google+, how were they? what were they like?
A diamond among coal...
It's kinda funny because the big concern over in the ladder thread is that newbs will come in and get turned off by the game. Nothing does that faster than a hostile in-game chat experience.
why hostile though?
I don't get that a-priori.
But nothing prevents it more than a pleasant one.
with free tutoring and people to explain what buttons arround the main chat page they land on when starting the game does what.
"oh you don't want to click on "matchmaking" just yet, start by going into "settings" and..."
wtFFFFF seriously where is this coming from?
just WHICH global chat are we taking as a reference here?
the "Israelo-Palestine meet new friends" IRC? the "we really thought is was superman or a bird, but not a plane and we're sorry Russo-Ukraine" IRC?
That's really a good question. My experience is mostly with GPGnet and FAF. those have been awesome and the reason why FA was great. What games have people played who dislike chats so much?
And now don't go "but PA has so many more players than those". No it has not. Simply false. And if it had, you could easily implement a ladder and have enough players for it, as both GPGnet and FAF had/have enough players for matchmaking.
Global chat works in small communities because people come back to chatrooms to talk to people they're familiar with. Essentially, a clique takes over the global chatroom, and they often fool themselves into thinking it's awesome or friendly because they've chased out the people who they aren't comfortable with.
In large communities, conversations are simply overrun by randoms. It's difficult to sustain a dialogue, and new (and annoying) people show up and drown out the regulars. This inevitably foments hostility until either the tide of new people stops flowing, or would-be regulars abandon the chat entirely because there's little chance of speaking to anyone they know or like.
This could actually be an observation applying to any conversation medium, not just chatrooms, particularly those that are privately run and/or lack impartial moderation.
but FAF is BIG, or at least is BIGGER than PA.
so what's the issue? (disregarding that you're completely wrong about it only being size-related)
Have you all forgot those websites are free to make an account on for anyone under the sun? A six year old could join the chat for all we know. It's possible.
PA is different. You have to buy the game to access the chat. Most people who are bad at the game won't even participate in the chat because they're too busy quitting the game. There will always be trolls, yes, but the amount of trolls is outnumbered by the players and professionals alike. Not to mention a moderated chat will easily mark those who want to make the chat worse and block them from doing so. Has anyone even mentioned a global chat would be real-time instead of post-waiting like forums are? That's kind of why they exist.
The way I see it, imagine if talking to other people in real life was only possible by phonecalls, texts, chats, some type of device. You can't talk to someone else face-to-face directly, it has to be through some third-party object. You can't even see them there. Assuming you don't know there's a community, that's an extremely desolate place to be. Conventions, Times Square, Theatres, Stores, Communities, Schools, anything. It's all empty because you have no idea who else is there.
Obligatory : Is this the real life? Is this just fantasy?
If PA was akin to real life as we know it, this is exactly how it plays out right now. And it's kind of sad. I've personally seen many global chatrooms for all types of games, MMO, RPG, FPS, RTS, Racing, Puzzle games, many others I probably can't think of at the time. It brings out the best and worst of us.
If Uber won't make a global chat out of fear it'll turn into popular mmorpgs marketed to ages 4+, then I think there should be a mod made available for chat to at least prove it's right to be there. Rite of passage, as they say.
so is FAF.
not to mention IRC.
and that the IRC address to FAF global chatt is *freely* available anywhere
Just wanted to let everyone know I am working on putting a global chat into PA as a mod right now.
Thank you for your time, go back to your heated discussion.
That people think their experience with GPGnet will translate directly to a global chat in PA.
P.S. I don't think it's only size-related, so you're disregarding a fiction.
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