Explosive Shots - This nonsense needs to end

Discussion in 'Monday Night Combat 360 Feedback and Issues' started by Liefglinde, November 3, 2010.

  1. Goose

    Goose Active Member

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    Actually this does have to do with the assassin. If you are dying in one hit it is because the Sin can't take hits. That does not mean that the Sniper needs to be changed but the Sin does.
  2. DeadStretch

    DeadStretch Post Master General

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    But he wasn't getting hit. The Sniper was hitting his own bots.
  3. Randomdude02

    Randomdude02 Member

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    If you'll have read the thread, you'll have noticed this is about the Sniper, and his explosive shots.

    An experience of his that backs up his claim was him playing Assassin at the time.

    We also have someone stating a similar experience occurred as a Tank (most health).

    If he's dying in one hit ONLY as Assassin, then, yes. It would be about the Assassin. If EVERY class can be killed in one hit by multiple, concurrent explosive shots, then the Sniper DOES need to be changed. And, having a testimony with someone playing a Tank, a character with the most health in the game, being killed by one shot, then EVERY class is susceptible to this method of attack.

    This being said, there are one of three things going on here with you.

    1. You're a troll. If so, good work. You've definitely gotten the attention you've craved.
    2. You have poor skills at conveying your tone. As it is, you appear far more inflammatory than necessary. Whether on purpose or accidental, I'm not quite sure. Either way, this sets yourself up as enemy number one in any conversation.
    3. You're just plain slow. If you'd have read what's going on, surmising what I just summarized for you what have been incredibly easy.
  4. Shammas

    Shammas New Member

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    If you die in one shot, you were shot in the head. If you are dumb enough to sit next to the bots after the sniper has just shot them and kills you, you deserve to die.
  5. Liefglinde

    Liefglinde New Member

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    It was not a headshot. It was the penetrating shots going through the bots I was next to, resulting in more than one explosive round at the same time. That is what killed me.
  6. Randomdude02

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    Congratulations. You now qualify for the Special Olympics.
  7. Shammas

    Shammas New Member

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    That occurrence seems rarer than just getting a headshot. It seems like it would be more work to get myself in a position to shoot through 2 or more bots. And if you are next to the bots killing them, shouldn't you have killed at least 1 of the 3 bots so this won't happen?
  8. Liefglinde

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    I can take out 1, yes. Doesn't do much when there are 4, 5, or an army. And besides, it only takes 2. When you consider how wide the Blackjacks are, it really isn't that difficult at all.
  9. DeadStretch

    DeadStretch Post Master General

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    Shammas by the way you say things I can tell you don't escort your bots. By escort I don't mean you run ahead to clear the way.
  10. Shammas

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    Actually Dead Stretch, it sounds like the opposite. I clear the bots well enough that they don't pile up in groups of 4 or 5, because I'm a good assassin. If I see a sniper staring at the bot lane, I'll use my shurikens. Players need to use intelligence and work around their counters instead of complaining and trying to get the game changed to benefit an already easy and simple class.
  11. Randomdude02

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    You mean how intelligent Snipers will move slightly to the left to avoid the entire string of Shuriken?
  12. Shammas

    Shammas New Member

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    I'm talking about shooting the bots with shurikens to not get explosive shotted. You know what? There's your answer.
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  13. BroTranquilty

    BroTranquilty New Member

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    they dont have the option of an ACOG sight in this game.

    tunnel vision usually is the death of even the most intellegent sniper. they never see the stream of shuriken until they are looking at an overhead view of their slashed corpse.

    welcome to lumbridge. stay out of the wild. (runescape reference)
  14. Randomdude02

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    So the answer is that you're automatically shut down from using your sword. Brilliant. Why didn't I think of that. Oh, right.

    I already do this if necessary. Doesn't change the fact that it's ridiculous just how abusive explosive shots can get.


    Really? I don't play Sniper very often, but when I do I try to only quickscope, and even then, after scoping in more than three times, check my surroundings. I'm just too paranoid, what with all those sneaky Assassins and P.O.'d Assault/Gunners.

    Eh. Guess it's just me.
  15. Ninja Wallace

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    I got killed in one shot today as a gold armor Assault. It wasn't in the head.

    That should not be possible.
  16. Leonyx

    Leonyx New Member

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    Does the explosive effect stack or something? I don't understand how people can die from one hit without being headshot.
  17. Randomdude02

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    Apparently this is what occurs.

    The Sniper's bullets, when explosive, also penetrate multiple targets. If there is a single Blackjack, and the Sniper's bullet hits it, it will explode with an area of effect explosion. However. If there are MULTIPLE bots, and the bullet passes through two or more, then each bot it passes through will cause another explosion. So, one bullet can cause up to two (easy) through even five (incredibly difficult) explosions, killing someone instantly.
  18. PohTayToez

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    That's exactly what occurs. The important thing to keep in mind here, though, is that the penetrations must have overlapping AoE radiuses which the pro being shot at must be inside. Three overlapping AoE radiuses is pretty rare, so most of my OHKOs are through two bots and the actual pro being shot at.

    Honestly, the explosive damage caused could probably stand to be nerfed, although I like the current area it reaches.
  19. BroTranquilty

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    not correct. i believe the how-to-play states the target initially hit gets explosive round, and the rest recieve normal penetration. you can test this sorta difficultly in a private match. shoot two waves of blackjacks, see if it kills both waves, or just the first wave and one out of of the second wave.

    ...or ask a dev lmao. :cool:

    well the wiki is never wrong, it says an explosion per impact it makes, so maybe im just blowing smoke up your asses. watch out for that prostate cancer.
  20. hostileparadox

    hostileparadox Well-Known Member

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    Ironically enough, one of the Protips the game gives is to use your own bots as cover when escorting them. :lol:

    They should add the addendum: (Ignore when there is a sniper on the enemy team, explosive shots will destroy you)

    I think the explosion should only occur on the first target it hits, but still granting bullet penetration. That way it is still deadly against bots, but you have to actually work to shoot the pros.

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