Disappointed About the Pricing

I know this is a polite "shut up", but you know, end user opinions on internet are free to be heard/discarded. You can hear it (Xbox one) or make your point and continue as it is.

I don't have any idea on game pricing structure, but it's the most expensive game on Steam (taking aside bundles+ Design software):
http://store.steampowered.com/searc...er=DESC&#sort_by=Price&sort_order=DESC&page=2

Or either one game is expensive or the 7130 behind it are cheap. And that's what a lot of people sees: 50% more expensive that the most priced AAA+ games (Bioshock, Call of Duty Ghosts, etc...).
As I said I don't have any game pricing knowledge, I just used common sense.
Overall, software games are not a luxury good (like other says, Apple, Mercedes, etc), so elasticity<1, high prices get lower sells, and eventually overall income is lesser with higher prices. But maybe I'm wrong of course.

There quite literally isn't anything such as bad publicity when it comes to cost... The game is traveling from person to person, people wanna figure out well why would alpha and beta be 90 bucks combined plus retail? Lets take a look at the game! Woohoo!

The average gamer continues buying COD for 60 bucks and we all know this game has more creativity then that. In the end it's not what the average gamer pays to determine a healthy cost of a game. It's based on the value of it to each person. So those 44k people currently invested in PA definitely shows UBER is onto something.

Those people may mostly be anxious as to why they can't play for less, well alpha access isn't about playing as much as it is assisting in the construction of the game... Beta is more for playing... Beta options we see a lot!

If someone doesn't come across the kick starter for planetary annihilation or the hundreds of repeat explinations for why the beta an alpha price is the way it is within a few clicks of google links then my question to them is did they throw an absolute bitch fit because they couldn't find the game that "valuable" to themselves and instead just wanted to play? Heck you'd find the Ubernet store at the top of tue search engine and walaaa cheaper options!

So we come down to one thing we address. Don't like the price? Don't ******* buy it. But a cheaper one or don't at all. But the explinations for the price are out there quit repeating the same ol bullshit of oh you won't lower it? Fine I'm leaving. The peanut gallery doesn't care, the game will grow in plenty of ways with the scope of Internet and the progression of the game in production.

Don't let the door hit you on the way out! Or we'll see you in September, or December.

The primary complaints about the Xbox One had nothing to do with its price. They were about the stupidly restrictive proposed DRM scheme with respect to second hand game sales. You have also failed to demonstrate that there is some kind of problem that even needs to be addressed in the first place. A few angry kids on Steam are not indicative of the wider video game market.

Yes PA alpha is expensive. PA will get cheaper as time goes on. This is clearly explained on the Steam page.

Lets look at a AAA game. How about Call of Duty: Black Ops II. Its $60 on Steam. Normal price for a new AAA spunkgargleweewee game. No big deal right? Oh but you want all the DLC too? That will be another $60. So $120 total.

Compaire to PA. $40 for the game. All future updates and add-ons included. Even if some future PA expansion costs another $20 its still the same as just the base game for Call of Duty: Black Ops II. Not a bad deal. In fact even the $90 PA alpha looks pretty good now if you take the DLC into account.

It looks like your common sense failed to account for the whole picture.

Actually they are a luxury good. There is an actual definition for the term in economics and video games match it perfectly.

Video games are one of the very first things people stop buying when money gets tight. This is less the case with iPhones, nice cars, and expensive clothes since those items carry weight as status symbols in modern culture. Unlike video games which are seen as just, well, games.

Why do you think cheap casual games and free to play micro transaction games did so amazingly well while the global economy was in the tank? If Uber was making toilet paper or basic engine oil then your argument would hold water. But they aren't and it doesn't.

It's not I don't like the price and I'm leaving, but the opposite. I like the game to massively succeed, and I see the high price a problem. Uber is going to do what they like, so don't get so mad about different points of view.
I Kickstarted the game, so I have a retail key, I'll see you when winter comes (like December)

It's a marketing/PR problem, and in this case PR did hear the potential customers.
I would hear what ppl thinks on Steam about my game, don't you think?
Don't minimize the power of Steam, it's the biggest PC community nowadays:
http://store.steampowered.com/stats, Origin it's a joke against Steam.
In fact for me there is nothing outside Steam, I just know about Uber due to Steam. Statistics says I'm not the only one.

Counter-intuitive, you are funding the creation of a game, "risking" your money, and you need to pay more.
And alpha is at 90$, beta at 60$, you need to pay 30USD for playing an alpha? That's a lot of money on Steam, you can buy a lot of games with 30 bucks.

DLC? Where? https://store.uberent.com/Store/PreOrder?titleId=4
Giving money in advance, with the risk it involves, it's not the same that buying a game, and if you like, buy DLC's afterwards.
I barely buy DLC's, only when they are good or pretty darn cheap (75% Steam sales and such).

Yeah, sure, a game that is more expensive than the 99.3% of the Steam catalog (including bundles) sounds totally right. I suggest you to read some microeconomics book.

Yeah, but no. I don't buy games as luxury products, microtransactions are nothing to do.
Maybe your economic's master degree teach you that, mine doesn't.

IT is a problem......IF you assume Uber aims for the game to 'massively succeed' during Alpha, if it was profits they wanted out of Alpha, that would lead to a much different pricing.

Mike

Hear what they say? Sure, its a great opportunity for dialog. Do what they say? No.

I guess Starcraft 2 and Diablo 3 must be doing terrible without the power of Steam behind them. Whatever could Blizzard be thinking. I guess Battlefield 3 isn't popular at all either.

And that is exactly why there is no such thing as bad publicity. Thank you for proving my point.

I thought you had a grasp of the capitalist system and the benefits of helping to provide feedback during the design process. I guess I was wrong.

An astute analysis. Now please take it a bit further and think about the purpose of a limited alpha.

Right here. $59.82 of it.

No its not. Your powers of observation amaze me.

I applaud your frugality. As a practical person who likes to get the most for their dollar you might be interested in the $40 PA pre order.

I have actually. I suggest that you do the same. Preferably at the college level like I did.

Actually you do. You just don't see it that way. That's the entire point of the micro transaction model and the reason why Walmat is so filthy rich.

Then you got a poor education in economics.

That the problem what you've said is not a differing point of view from what a lot of other people have said and as we routinely repeat ITS NOT CHANGING AND IT'S NOT A PROBLEM. It's not the whole sale of the game from now into release eve at 90 bucks it's super early access with a bunch of other options as an extra option of purchase. IE there are other options for purchase.

Walmart success related to luxury products and/or microtransactions, I stopped reading.
And I'm more than OK with my education, you don't need more details.

I don't want flame wars with a fanboy, I'm too old for that. I made my point enough, if Ubers hear both sides good, if not, good too.
If nobody sees a problem on publishing PA on Steam for 90$ as the most expensive game on catalog (alpha or not), ok then.

It's in the interest of their kickstarter pledgers man... Have a little respect for them because that's what this is for. No one in their right mind sells it for 90 bucks in the interest of selling it -_- you keep missing that very obvious fact. You also keep missing the progressively shrinking price that goes associated with the package as time goes on...

Your loss then. I guess they just conjured up all that money out of thin air in the process of selling lots of super cheap things. It's not related to how consumers perceive micro transactions at all. Nope, not at all.

I am glad you are happy with it. Education is the best provision for old age.

No you didn't really make any point at all. Or much sense either.

Fair enough. This is a perfectly valid way to look at it.

Why is this thread still alive? ._.

I think they should've made the Kickstarter price thing a bit more clear. It's not obvious at all unless you really look. Most people are just gonna see $90 and assume the game will cost that much on release too. The very first thing they should see is that the price will go down and the specifics on WHY this is the price.

I didn't even see the Kickstarter explanation until after double-checking.

like most things...

Just curious, is any developer going to take responsibility to communicate on the steam forums?

Despite what people may think of the price, it is important that Uber communicates with it's potential customers. And right now the steam forums are just demolishing the game.

those whiners are a minority anyway..
thing is uber already talked to them
did it help? no
you can´t convince naive prejudgediced stubborness..
i tried to talk to guys as reasonable as possible
and fell flat on the face with those..
it isn´t even realy worth the time..at all

the information about the reasons are there..it´s up the people themeselfes to read it
and accept it or do whatever they want..

Steam's community is really just like the rest of the internet - loud mouthed, vocal minority that never acts on what it says.

Well, Uber brought this on itself with its pricing. But I also think it was pure marketing genius.

Whether this ends up backfiring on Uber remains to be seen. In the meantime, it has drawn attention to PA. And that's a good thing.

I really wish this thread would just get locked already, honestly. I'm sick of it popping up with unread posts because I find reading some of them makes my head hurt.

Someone lock it...

Closed as anything that can be said about the price has been said multiple times.