Dear snipers:

Even a not-so-good sniper will aim like a beast compared to xbox ones.

Nerf or remove headshot - you might as well remove sniper class. Tank will do better at sniping. Even now it is possible to pretty much outsnipe a sniper with a railgun.

If they use a controller then wtf are they doing on PC? Not to be elitist (though I am anyway, hello daztora!), but xbox controller is called so because it's made for xbox.
For some reason players on PC not allowed to play against players from xbox in any fps games, guess why?
If people are using xbox controllers then apparently it's because they are masochistic and want to be stomped. Especially if they pick sniper.

Pretty much, yes.

2 headshots on a blackjack and he's dead, from any distance. In theory you can do same on xbox, but it's much harder to aim, isn't it.


L. Spiro

2 Headshots a Blackjack.

3 Blackjacks a Wave.

4 Bullets a Clip.

1 Headshot a Blackjack with Explosive Round.

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No chief, I still am getting the feeling there is too little clip size for snipers to push bots and kill pros. But I still like the bolt action idea if it is that bad.

I also seen some other features, there are class limits. Why can't uber do the easy thing, and make the default setting limit snipers to 0? Then there can then be a few servers with some snipers allowed.

Thank you, likewise.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=woySeSNB ... re=related


L. Spiro

Not my idea, just seemed like it was the majority complaint.

Don't know. Now I know why I never get into forums and internet fights.

There is still one reason, why is sniper OP which will make you change your opinion on it.
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EVEN I CAN PLAY IT AND I GOT CALLED HACKER 1000000000000000TIMES with Gold armor, silver clip and bronze ROF!!
So you cannot deny the fact he is OP WHEN EVEN I AM ABLE TO PLAY IT


W. ilder

Hackusations are a requirement in this game Wilder. Invalid argument.


L. Spiro

No u

W. ilder

A bit off-topic, but MNC is the game with the lowest average skill I've ever seen, tbh. Don't know why though.


L. Spiro

I disagree. WoW is.

There is no skill in playing MMO's.


L. Spiro

Timebased game, not skillbased.

Tell that to the retards who suck at it.

That would be me.
How anyone can play that game past level 14 amazes me.

What incredible patience

You are forgetting to sign your posts L. Pyros !

Part of the problem is that the game appealed to more than just shooter players. Steam lists the genre as "Action, Strategy, Indie, Sports". It's been compared to tower defense and DotA to appeal to those players. In the end though, shooter skills are by far the most important.

Another part is probably how a lot of good shooter players were immediately turned off by the console port feeling. Third person view, even though it doesn't really make much of a difference, just doesn't seem right to a lot of PC FPS players. There were some big problems with hosting dedicated servers at first (maybe still?), with no steam-independent dedicated client, no linux client, and no admin tools. Text chat was even worse than it is now (or did it not exist at all?). The original state of the game had almost no way to set up organized matches. All these things make it hard for people who take shooters seriously to take this game seriously.

The problem with snipers is that everybody who has a real good aim can go positive in the first match with the sniper, but you can't go positive with other classes. One of my friends is a example of that, his first game was with a sniper, and he went something like 6-4, without ANY tutorials (which should come btw).

And people are trolling me for saying that Sniper is annoying.
Mind you I didnt say over-powered and I didnt whine. Played the game being annoyed without raising a word of complaint. Oh but yes I must be trolled anyway.


L. Spiro

I don't quite get it. So do you agree or disagree that sniper is overpowered?


L. Spiro

I think what it means to say is that it feels the sniper itself isn't necessarily overpowered, but that it's a strong class, and so if you can aim, you yourself as a player might be overpowered. I agree with it.


L. Spiro

Removing one hit kill headshots is the only way to solve the problem. And no it wouldn't mean the sniper has no place. The Assault still has a place even though his assault rifle isn't as powerful as the gunner's minigun. Classes are defined by their action abilities in many ways even more than their primary. Trying to play off that the sniper doesn't have impressive denial abilities to the point where people can get good scores without even using their sniper rifle at all is being less than honest.

The game as designed is suited towards spammy snipers and not precision one hit KO snipers.

For one sniping in MNC is probably the easiest sniping has ever been in games. The levels are like the stages in Burger Time. Basically they are extremely flat with simple transitions of z levels to more flat platforms. There are little in the way of variations of up and down. Generally when aiming people are more acclimated in panning left and right than going up and down given the way most people mouse with their arm resting on their surface; going up and down means stretching your fingers or picking your arm up completely. Slowing down the sniper won't do much against people who perform well in the class.

For people who don't perform as well in sniping regardless it will hurt them even more as they will no longer be able to contribute to the fight in any meaningful way. The game being 6 v 6 makes it even worse. They can't get better if they don't play and it's going to be hard for them to play if they continuously lose and get screamed at for being dead weight. Especially since it will cut into the bot removal functions so they couldn't even do that. If your goal is to not alienate people it wouldn't work.

Speaking of alienation the thing that bothers people about one hit kills is that they are one hit kills. The fact that someone can spam at your head and get them makes them somewhat worse but the actual issue is that the player feels like they have no input in the outcome of the fight. You could be standing still lost in thought and have good sniper flub the shot and miss you anyway. You could be charging in the air doing some crazy maneuver while a newbie sniper sneezes and a headshots you by accident while spraying snot all over their computer monitor. All the characters duel with each other for at least a little time except the sniper.