Cosmetic items?

Vitally with them taking per orders right up until launch so those who didn't know about the KS or even those who were skeptical can fund the game beyond the amount raised in the KS.

Then there's the retail sales once the game is out and such, I'd say things are looking really good for Über atm.

Mike

I hate to be a stick in the mud, but the people who kick stated the game also kinda bought it as a reward...44,000 people who already have the game and won't buy it again is the problem, new customers or new things to buy is whats needed, and thus is the thread.

And didn't Supreme Commander make over 1 million sales? Assuming similar sales, 1 million minus 45,000 still comes to 955,000, take away more to account for the paypal backers.

Planetary Annihilation recieved good publicity from gaming networks for its Kickstarter. The project hardly looks to be in an unhealthy position.

That's not the issue at all, read the thread, it has nothing to do with PA going F2P.

Mike

It is still an indie game, despite the publicity it's received in certain circles. Who knows how well it's going to sell on release.

Lots of DLC is the nature of the market these days.

No one is releasing games and simply moving on to the next one anymore.

What even?

I am not sure what you read, but what I am saying it that with about 40,000 people getting the game for free for kick starting, once the game is developed that's 40,000 less after development sales.

The point of the thread was UBER asking about cosmetic items for people to use and possibly buy.

Why you dragged F2P into this is beyond me.

Back in my day, we got a game, and if it looked good, we were satisfied with how it looked. We were more concerned with gameplay than with "blinging out" our units. If any changes to the game came, they were in the form of patches to fix balance and bugs (and maybe add a new feature/unit), and expansions, which we were happy to buy separately if they were good enough. And if we REALLY wanted to make things look different, there were always mods.

When I backed PA, I was kind of hoping for a return to form. I don't mind buying a new expansion now and again, Guild Wars style, but microtransactions and DLC are not something I care for. Supcom managed to stick to the old formula, and somehow it did okay. Why should PA differ?

(Besides, the whole point of stuff like custom commanders for KS backers was to give them something unique as a reward. If cosmetic items are implemented TF2 hats style, those custom commanders will rapidly become mundane in comparison to the newest "hat" equivalent in PA. Kind of a **** move for those KS backers, I think.)
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Because GPG is as close as a broken company as you get.

I am not an Uber employee remember. I am just speculating.

I would freaking love Dawn of War style customization of my robots. Its a great personal touch.

Well I guess we just have to ask ourselves, "Was Team Fortress 2 a more enjoyable game before or after they started selling hats?"

And will the people running the micro transaction store be pissed when their $2 Carmen Miranda style fruit hats aren't selling because some modder is releasing Carmen Miranda style fruit hats for free?

And what is of the market these days, Polynomial? Certainly not growing.

And igncom, I'm sorry, but 44,162 backers funded $2,229,344 to the project. Including Kickstarter's 5% tax, that's the equivalent of 42,357 retail priced sales. That's money Uber would had to have made back regardless, only now they don't even have to answer to investors. Hardly free. (Damn, I should have brought this up earlier.)

http://store.steampowered.com/stats/

How many of these games use a heavy DLC/microtransaction model?

I was just pointing it out, because less money is less money.

and 2 million dollars is a lot of money, but money that's not profit and profit they can't expect from us.

How many people will be left to buy the game after it has been completed?

That was my point.

You fail at economics.

And you fail at business study's.

Edit: I would be more willing to actually believe what you say if you weren't such an ***. But no, you had to go there and just insult me, its a wonder why you have to be so aggressive.

Actually so do you, Über is going to do a digital retail release, there was also talk of maybe doing some actual physical retailing for the EU. This is on top of them taking ore orders as well starting a week ago and going right up to release.

Mike

I know, money saved from not having to pay back a publisher easily out does the 2 mil funded by kick starter.

I know that I was wrong, and I apologize to you and everyone else but ayceeem.

And thank you for helping to say why I was wrong in a civil manner.

Haha, funny how the thread got diverted so quickly.

For me, it's simple. It's not necessary, so it either should be avoided for now, or put somewhere near the end of the to-do list. Somewhere next to buying a swimming pool full of money.

As long as it won't impede my ability to write mods and create my own content for PA, I have no objections to cosmetic items.

If one was especially good or lulzy, I'd even consider throwing an extra few dollars towards Uber.

The problem with modding+microtransactions is that a freely available mod may unlock all the extra items - which completely negates the time, effort, and money spent to produce them in the first place. I consider this to be the main problem, especially considering how many modders backers and are hanging around in anticipation for PA - some of which pledged rather large sums of money.

*cough*

Mike