Centralised Machine Consciousness

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  1. komandorcliff

    komandorcliff Member

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    I Dont think like you, i NEVER tought like you, i mix GOOD dose of logic and SCIENCE! with imagination to create something SCIENTIFICALY POSSIBLE and WITH LOGICAL EXPLANATION

    That quantum conciousness sentence? like i stated, THATS NOT HOW IT WORKS :mad:
    Its about quantum interactions in concousness process and possibly never dying informational pattern that can take on new vessels (when vessel dies, information does NOT stop existing, nor degenerate because its self sustaining computational mumbo jumbo, similar to why atoms dont rip them selves apart spontaneusly, there is a force holding them toghever, they are just in planck level reality, mathematical void, if there is a possibility of pattern coming back, pattern WILL come back to a computational substrate that can sustain it)

    See? this could be true and with non-bullshit explanation, where your theories are total bullshit with lack of explanation, with some max-wank setting in reality theoreticaly by thinking in specific way you could interact with other information on that level and change something in macro reality from below

    besides due to lastest scientific facts (negative energy and possibly working alcubierre drive, actualy working drive that can give thrust by using VIRTUAL!Particles, photonic molecules, and that negative absolute zero more than 100% energy efficiency engines bullshit) it seems that reality is on max-wank setting (and that still can be logicaly explained, aplying absolutley 0% of total bullshit that you are using)
  2. phlogistinator

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    For those who are not aware, Gamma Ray Burst Progenitors are, by virtue of names, the "Progenitors" of this universe. It has long been suspected that humans are not the sole intelligent lifeforms on this planet, and newer findings have found that these entities, which are often made of plasma, and other exotic materials, *might* actually harbor true consciousness - though the degree of which is not known. (Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gamma-ray_burst_progenitors)

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    Above: A Gamma Ray Burst Progenitor.

    It has also been said that, according to the article's sub-topic on "Neuron Star and Black Hole Mergers", that Gamma Ray Burst Progenitors are formed when Neutron Stars and Black Holes converge with each other. In that case, it would mean that, since such collisions are so common in the universe, that there might be a lot of these "progenitors" in the universe.

    Right now, due to a lack of evidence, it is not known if these progenitors are hostile. All that is known, is that according to http://www.fromquarkstoquasars.com/the-progenitors-of-gamma-ray-bursts/ , these progenitors do pulsate very violently, and sometimes fire bolts of Gamma Rays at planets of many civilizations.

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    Above: A Gamma Ray Burst Progenitor fires a bolt of gamma rays. Whether it is deliberate or not is not known.

    These Gamma Ray Burst Progenitors can belong to either the long or short-types:

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    The short types are believed to be far more unstable and unpredictable, and the amount of flux it has makes it difficult for it to evolve true sentience. However, the long types are stable enough and evidence has shown (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wow!_signal) that it might be intelligent due to the nature of the signals that it sends.

    If Gamma Ray Burst Progenitors are indeed hostile and conscious, do you all think that they will be dangerous towards humans?

    This is a serious threat according to http://www.space.com/5081-real-death-star-strike-earth.html
  3. optimi

    optimi Well-Known Member

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    Please provide evidence of these "newer findings."
  4. phlogistinator

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  6. stuart98

    stuart98 Post Master General

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    Aaaaand I think that's enough. If you're going to find a need to pointlessly post nonsensical BS, please confine this nonsensical BS to one thread. :)
  7. kazzymodus

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    Consciousness and intelligence are not the same thing.

    EDIT: Just noticed who the OP is. Thread solved.
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  8. komandorcliff

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    Please someone kill anihhilate deconstruct his molecular structure by reclaim and planet smash his butt for his sins ban him and create new rule about spreadin misinformation and mystic propaganda BS :(
    Last edited: August 6, 2014
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  9. cwarner7264

    cwarner7264 Moderator Alumni

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    Merged duplicate threads.
  10. Geers

    Geers Post Master General

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    Still high?
  11. aevs

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    You are currently using a computer to access a forum dedicated to a piece of software.
    ...o_O
  12. aevs

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    What are you basing any of this on? That's as far-fetched as some of phlogistinator's claims.
  13. Geers

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    Because humans could NEVER do both! IMPOSSIBLE!
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  14. galactoid

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    Actually I agree with the OP to some extent. Ever watched Star Trek? Spock is what happens if we become too logical.
  15. Geers

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    So... Warp drives and an intellect beyond what we have today? SOLD.
  16. phlogistinator

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    I actually kind of realised that if we edit that picture, we get this:

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    Great minds think alike :)
  17. komandorcliff

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    Quantum interaction in conciousness part is more 'normal' while reincarnation and quantum soul BS is based on extension of law that "no information can cease to exist" and that reality warping psionic BS its just further extension based on "informations actualy INTERACT with eachother on their level"
    First part is pretty possible
    Second part is plausible
    Third part is theoretical BS that actualy can be plausible in some circumstanses

    None of those are my ideas anyway, but they still have more sense than mumbo jumbo BS from phogistinator

    And for evidence that reality works on max-wank setting

    http://www.nature.com/news/quantum-gas-goes-below-absolute-zero-1.12146
    http://phys.org/news/2013-09-scientists-never-before-seen.html
    http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/...el-quantum-space-engine-and-it-actually-works
  18. phlogistinator

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    Jack Finney, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Finney , actually suggests that it is possible for souls to snatch new bodies by displacing the spirits inside them. Since we need only 1 example to disprove the statement that there is no such thing as reincarnation, this example proves reincarnation correct.
  19. stuart98

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    I just died a little inside.
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  20. komandorcliff

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    STAPH :mad:
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