Can we get a rethink from Uber over having a global, pre-game chatroom?

With the greatest of respect, you've missed the point. A global chat makes everybody feel like they're part of the same whole, whereas the only people who download mods already feel part of the community.

Isn't there already a feed on the main menu, just allow people with uber approval to post stuff there. Video's announcements and the like.

Maybe instead of giving them the chatroom, the focus should be giving them the mods?

PAMM or PAHub are both gateway systems into the entire ecosystem of improvement downloads.

Maybe since they are mostly unbiased, they should be included with PA.

But only people with mods would have the global chat. And if only a small amount of people who do mod do it, it wouldn't be very global.

Yeah, but Uber isn't going to do it for a variety of reasons that have been made clear. @tHeTrOpHySyStEm is on the money, if anything we should be working on Uber to make it much easier to get mods. PAMM could easily be linked to directly from the launcher. Then the large majority could easily have access to an almost global chat. I'm a solutions oriented person, I think it's best if we stick with the practical.

I don't see how having a global chat is impractical.

If the alternative is to promote mods within the game then great. But how do you go about doing that, how do you prioritise which mods people should download? Without biasing the results and annoying 99% of mod creators, you can't have Uber saying that mods x, y and z are the ones you should download. But the reality is that only a tiny fraction of created mods will be worthwhile, will gain widespread approval and adoption, so how can Johnny Noob know which ones will improve his game, and which ones will waste his time?

In a global chat system, the worthwhile mods will naturally get mentioned more, and Johnny Noob will be gently guided in the right direction. I missed the previous discussion on this subject it seems, but past worrying that people might say naughty words, really what is the problem?

It's impractical because Uber very firmly said they would not be implementing it. They stated they had neither the time, man power, nor interest in doing it. Not my viewpoint (i'm neutral on it).

FAF is essentially a mod also, in the sense that a person has to go out of their way to get it. It's obviously not as immediately accessible as an in-built system, but a 3rd party client is clearly not unworkable either.

If this was integrated with the same system that clash of clans has for clans, it would be perfect. then all clans could be signed up for in game without any complications.

This is true, but bear in mind that FAF is the only practical option to play an abandoned game, and it acts as a front-end for Forged Alliance so it's not like somebody could turn up at FAF without the mod. FAF turned out much better than GPGNet ever was, but at the time there was some very vocal opposition to the concept of FAF, from people who felt that it would split the community and was therefore a bad thing. Of course GPGNet soon went down forever and all those voices stopped, but the same thing would happen here. And with an actively-updated game, there would be a lot more people that would see it as a direct insult to Uber, and I would tend to see their point.

PAMM has a "times downloaded" tracker for mods, and if it was integrated would make popular mods propbably used by the vast majority. I myself have never been one to try many mods, but if a mod manager is integrated in the game I'd likely give a few popular mods a go.

For PA i'm using a few UI mods, and pa stats, all of which are awesome.

that's not global chat

yes and no. for one the word-of-mouth with FAF on steam is so viral there are literally but slim pockets of the FA community left on steam.

two contrary to most mods this one has it's one website with the installer on landing page and a straightforward and rather obvious domain name plus the installer is a one click then you're ready to go.

that's hardly a different level then what steam does.

some mods require you to find them on modb, will then require a series of scripts, executables, files placed in certain hidden folders with convoluted paths, sometimes having to edit files inside the .exe with winrar, the list goes on...

I wasn't alluding it was.

I was commenting on a way that good mods could be advertised without an integrated global chat.

oh.

well that's not really global chat's reason to exist.

Well that's sorted then, one less reason to include global chat.

that's not how logical deduction works either.

Global chat just seems like a way for trolls to get more attention. If we can monitor it and keep it clean by all means do it, but that is easier said than done.

New thread, same posters, same arguments.

At least we're past release now. Now all the newbies have gone away and we'll be left with just the die hard fanboys in the chatroom, who at least won't flame each other.