Another News Channel Just Lost My Respect

Discussion in 'Unrelated Discussion' started by Geers, July 27, 2014.

  1. mered4

    mered4 Post Master General

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    More like CNN with Brits.
  2. mered4

    mered4 Post Master General

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    She's right though. She might be angry and frustrated and pushing the boundaries, but she has a point. Why do you need to get high or drink or whatever?
  3. squishypon3

    squishypon3 Post Master General

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    Well no one said you needed to, many people don't. It's just that a lot of those problems they're talking about are because the drug is illegal, if it were legal- prices would drop, and people wouldn't be going bankrupt trying to get to it. A lot of there arguments are that "Well I don't want my babysitter doing pot!" Well you wouldn't want your babysitter drinking, or smoking, on the job either I'd assume. It's just that most of there arguments go just as well against any other drug that IS legal.
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  4. mered4

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    Um. What drugs that are also addictive and regularly used by Highschoolers and college kids as a way to rebel are also legal?
    If it were legal the prices would first drop, then rise again as the US governement taxed them.
  5. tehtrekd

    tehtrekd Post Master General

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    It's not that anyone needs to, some do it to deal with problems others as a recreational thing and most do it as a social exercise.

    Is it the BEST social exercise? Probably not, but even as someone who's never tried it, I honestly don't see an ill effect to legalizing marijuana (especially since the drug itself has no ill effects on people according to several researchers)

    The point I made in showing the video, however is that she had clearly contributed absolutely nothing to the "debate".

    The initial reason to bringing him was to discuss the reasons for and against the legalization of marijuana, the interviewee had a sound argument. Nancy on the other hand, did not.

    She was run into a corner extremely quickly and, much like an instinctual animal, began doing everything she could in the hopes of getting out of it. Being interrupting him, calling him out on things that he understands and acknowledges (addictive properties, for example) and bringing up topics and stories that were just BARELY related to the topic at hand (and even if those stories were true which if I know fox news, they weren't they'd definitely be the exception, not the rule.)

    The interviewee also brought up the excellent point of if you are against legalization for marijuana you should also be for the criminalization of tobacco and alcohol, a point that was 100% ignored by Nancy just so she could continue wasting his time.
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  6. mered4

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    Tobacco and alchohol can be used in moderation. Every single time I've heard someone say they want to go do some weed, it's always with the purpose of getting high - never just to smoke, like you would a cigarette, or to drink with friends, like with alcohol.
    Now, I have a rather limited exposure to weed by choice, so it's definitely possible I'm way wrong here.

    Also, we don't criminalize Alcohol and Tobacco for the same reason Obama is banning the Keystone pipeline: There is too much money behind those industries. You will bankrupt thousands, and possibly liberate millions.

    Also, we tried. :D Marijuana has never been legal because it fits the definition of an highly addictive substance.
  7. squishypon3

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    Pffft.. that's not the only reason, don't you know what happened the last time alcohol became illegal?

    Anyway, marijuana can be used in moderation as well, you can get a bit tipsy just the same as being able to get just a /little high/ (insert towlie here)
  8. Geers

    Geers Post Master General

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  9. kvalheim

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    I still maintain that Fox News is actually a satirical comedy channel that's become so deeply undercover they don't even remember they're not real news.
  10. mered4

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    The last time I tried to convince someone of this, they recoiled in horror and surprise.

    And then said, "You might be on to something there...."
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  11. mered4

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    But have you seen anyone do this? Is there a formula for not going over the edge, like there is with alcohol and smoking??
  12. Geers

    Geers Post Master General

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    When I look at the rails this thread is speeding down at 500km/h (metric master race), I see a 90 degree turn.
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  13. tehtrekd

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    I have never met a single person who smoked cigarettes in moderation. I'm sure it does happen but I somehow doubt it's common.
    Also, as far as I know you can't really smoke weed without becoming high. That doesn't mean it can't be done in moderation, some friends of mine only do it twice or so a week. It's similar to having a drink with friends only instead of being somewhat tipsy you miraculously gain a hunger that can only be gone after consuming copious amounts of pizza and chicken wings.
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  14. mered4

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    ....that's a really expensive habit. Lol

    The other thing I have against weed being legal is that it implicitly encourages fiscal irresponsibility - people are driven into the ground all the time by overdoing Smoking, Alcohol, and drugs - and it's no different for Marijuana. In addition, I've been VERY well educated on all the wonderful things that marijuana does to your brain and to your metabolism. It is flat out awful, and even worse than alcohol or porn. Also incredibly deceptive on the part of that guy who was completely for legal pot - I mean, if you know it's that harmful, why the hell are you promoting it?

    I'm completely for letting people make their own decisions and living their own life. I'm against just throwing opinions around without presenting the facts, like was done throughout this video. It confuses and angers folks unnecessarily, no matter their opinion.
  15. tehtrekd

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    It does to your brain what every addictive substance does to it. Compared to alcohol's killing of the brain cells and tobacco's cancer spreading that's not such a terrible thing. It's somewhat worse for adolescents than it is for adults (for example it poses a risk of cognitive impairment in children and adolescents) but it's overall nowhere near as harmful as tobacco or alcohol.
    It also effects people who have genetic weaknesses/vulnerabilities but that's to be expected.
    (Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long-term_effects_of_cannabis)

    And there's no real evidence pointing to any adverse (or beneficial) effects to the metabolism.
  16. Geers

    Geers Post Master General

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    Obviously it's just a massive plot run by Pizza Hut to increase sales.
  17. mered4

    mered4 Post Master General

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    I was briefed by the military. They have the secrets. :)
    I also don't trust wikipedia much anymore, except for really general stuff. Tbh, I wouldn't be surprised if someone had tampered with that article. I wish I didn't, but it's the world we live in today.

    EDIT: GEERS IS A GENIUS. It was Pizza Hut! Their army of techies is watching that Wikipedia article like a hawk.
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  18. Geers

    Geers Post Master General

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    I asked a mathematician who had a job at Lockheed Martin and is qualified to teach practically any maths he likes about wikipedia once. He said as far as the math goes, it's perfectly accurate.
    Also: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reliability_of_Wikipedia
    #Drowninginirony
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  19. garat

    garat Cat Herder Uber Alumni

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    This is the kind of thread that causes comment threads to explode if they were on any other site. Kudos for being at least rational discussion in here.

    - Network news makes you stupid; Read the Financial Times or simply scan a wide selection of news RSS feeds. You get a much better array of opinions.
    - Comedy Central is more accurate then network news, but it's still comedy
    - There is zero medical consensus that marijuana fits any of the common descriptors as a highly addictive substance (Speaking from one of the two states in the US that now have reasonable recreational use laws)
    - All things in moderation. Especially discussing politics and the media on the internet. ;)
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  20. DeadStretch

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    LMAO! Hahaha hahaha hahaha. Wow I'm out of breath from that one.

    [Edit]
    Prescribed opiates are SOO much better than some weed. :rolleyes:

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