Amicably Solution? (KS Unique Progenitor Model)

Abel and Progenetor or whatever is not alike, they are 2 different commanders.

Hey Man,

Yeah I'm totally fine with it. If someone else can have a better life then it's really not a question for me.... more of a "why wasn't this done sooner???" I have a younger brother who is seriously disabled. I've seen first hand how difficult life can be for a person with special needs and not just for the person but for the immediate family. It's moulded me into the person I am today so I'm very passionate about it.

To me this is a non-issue, we're talking about peoples lives. Honestly what's more important than that? Just from my perspective I can't believe this is an issue... It's people we're talking about. People who have received the rough end of the stick either being born with a disability or it has happened through life. I would gladly give everything I own if my bro could have just a single hour of normality in his life...

I can certainly live happily knowing that proceeds from sales of this commander are going to be used to help those less fortunate than me. In fact, it brings me great joy.

Cheers,

-Todd

Are sharing the same model. Which was supposed to be unique kickstarter model as per the agreement. Any suggestions on the topic?

I like the support here for Uber. Pretty sure the rest of us active members would have been out to pasture if ya'll hadn't spoken up.

Thanks for BEING AWESOME.....

I don`t know, sell something else? Let forum choose what commander to sell, kind a weird they didn't think this one through. And frankly i don`t see defending vs defending is working. Someone gotta step up and be a man you know.

For me personaly there is no reason to invest into the able commander as it looked in the pte as i would just buy me a dublicate model ... In that chase i could just go straight do the ablegamer webside and just donate as the outcome to me would be the same not geting anything personaly out of it but help the Organisation With their cause ...

This is not about bragging rights but rather doing a bit of a disservice to those who were willing to support uber during KS while also wanting the commander even if that is the minority ... I have no issue with uber taking the progenitor as base for new commanders like the delta actualy was ... But just a mere skinmodification (and i cant help it but it ... ) feels a bit of a slap to the face
If the ablecommander gets to the stablebuild like it was in the ptebuild why should i who has an progenitormodel already buy it?
Could the ablecomm look better? Yea .. maybe .. as taste is rather subjective ...
Should it look different? Definitively...
Does it look different? Not from what i saw of the latest files that were provided from the ptebuild ..

Again this is just my opinion in the topic
feel free to disagree or not care
as it stands for me and while it still just is cosmetic content the world wont cry about ... It's decisions like this that may make me lose interest in ever purchasing commanders at all ... or any digital cosmetic content for that matter ...

Ill stand up for anyone whom I think is being hated on for a dumb reason.


Also;

That's worth a read.

Yes it is a great charity. They could've done it in a manner that would've avoided or mitigated this issue.

Talking about disabilities. I can't tell if you're being sarcastic due to me.

As somebody who has a disability I am conflicted on this issue considering my learning disability (as defined by the learning disabilities association of canada. Which is not to be confused with United Kingdom definition of LD) To all: imagine not being able to write on this forum without assistive technology or remember people's names those are just two examples. Todd, I can definitely empathize with your family.

Edit: an another example is not being able to finish the game. Due to how crazy the timing is in order to finish the first boss.

im hearing so many "what about me!" on the forum lately

Hey @lokiCML

Thanks for your post dude and thanks for your openness about your situation. I think @mered4 was trying to thank people for standing up for Uber on this issue.

Cheers,

-Todd

Well we haven't evolved into a hivemind yet, so individuals do happen to matter.

Thank you that was extremely difficult to write for me.

I laughed when Brad first said the commander was done for charity because I thought the whole big controversy would be coming to an abrupt end. I'm a little shocked that this is still going.

*Edit*
And it's not just a generic charity either. As someone that was born with cataracts in both eyes and was legally blind by the time I was 4, I constantly think about what my life would be like if a team of doctors hadn't volunteered to give me the surgeries that my parents couldn't afford (with the local Lions Club covering the rest). I'm one of the lucky ones that gets to live a normal life but still can remember what it was like to be disabled.

Just because it's for a charity doesn't mean the validity of the arguments goes away. Claiming so is simply a logical fallacy. It doesn't matter where the money is going.

The Kickstarter said "unique model"

Again. it's not the end of the world. yes, I like charity. yes, I like this game. yes, I like Uber's work.

Uber could have used any model, but they chose the model that was supposed to be a one of a kind for Kickstarter backers.

No one would be complaining and we would all be super happy if Uber had gone with a different Commander model or had made a new model.

I can actually understand why people would be upset if they backed at a higher level just for the progenitor and then found out later that they could have spent less and been able to donate to a worthy charity at the same time. I also admit that I am biased on this topic because I do not have the progenitor and my glasses are a constant reminder that charity is the only reason I'm not blind (It was an experimental surgery and at the time I was probably the youngest in the world to have it, so insurance didn't cover it). The charity angle might not be all that important if you treat the kickstarter as a binding contract for a pre-order, but that's not entirely what kickstarter really is.

If they did a little bit more to differentiate it that'd be nice, though the point where it's enough is super subjective.

Shh. This is a little guy thread. Let the small poster guys talk it out

But there's absolutely no reason to harp on it for this long.
Yes, Uber broke a promise and you lost exclusivity to a model of a unit that you spend all of 5 seconds looking at per game. Cry me a river.

But there's nothing to be done anymore. It happened. It's done. Move on.

At the end of the day, you didn't back the game or buy the deluxe edition for a commander, you backed it because you wanted to see this game happen, because the RTS genre has been without innovation for too long.

Uber broke their kickstarter promise. Is that a good thing? No.
But is it worth bitching and moaning for three days straight? Of course it isn't.
If they were to break a promise on something big, something that actually effected the game like gas giants or something, then yes. That would warrant a reaction this big, I'd be first in line to crucify someone over it.

But this effects nothing in the game. Unless the ego raise you get from showing off the fact that you got a progenitor is so powerful that it enhances your play, this reaction is ludicrously uncalled for.

So to clarify; I totally understand why some people would feel upset over this issue. I just feel like a subset of the people that have voiced their concerns have had reactions disproportionate to the actual problem. I also think that the fact that it is charity does alter the equation in that it should lower the outrage a bit.

It is hard to follow the forum outrage these days. We have half the people arguing that the unlockable commanders are too expensive and not accessible enough while the other half is saying that too many people can get commanders which lowers their value for people that already own them.

@brianpurkiss I get why your upset mate, I really do!

But let me ask you this question though. What's more important.

1.) KS Backers get the the exclusive model
2.) or some people in need get the support they deserve

I know it might sound like a jerky thing to simplify it to that degree so I apologise if I've cause offence as it certainly wasn't my intent but for me it's as simple as that. No grey area, no if's or buts or maybe... No if they had done it this way or they should have done it that way. It is what it is.

We aren't able to see the full business dealings behind closed doors nor should be be able to. It's none of our business how Uber runs theirs. Maybe they went to the able guys and they were like "Wow we really like that one, can you do something with that?" or Maybe Uber thought that was the best model to use to raise the most money for a good cause. We just don't know the full details of what went down so I don't think it's fair to shine a negative light on Uber. I mean they are some pretty decent guys who care about their community.

It's a shame they need to be defended in the first place....

Cheers,

-Todd