A proposal for fake orbital (With diagrams) Allows intuitive queuing of movement orders

agmarstrick · September 1, 2013

raevn said: ↑

realtimeshepherd said: ↑

@raevn
Yes, I see what you mean, however it still looks to me like the necessary right turn is delayed, meaning that you are not taking the quickest route to your selected target.
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If you don't delay the turn, you aren't heading towards the selected target, being where you clicked. Without a clear mapping between where you click and where the final orbit is, there is no target at all.

I see that you get a benefit of having a final direction that *you* were expecting, but I don't see that everyone would expect or want that particular direction.
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In the original image, click point A is roughly 45 degrees left of the satellite, yet it ends up travelling mostly parallel to it's current heading. I'm not sure how anyone would expect or want that particular heading. If you click somewhere 45 degrees from a units position, I would say most people would expect the satellite to end up moving on a 45 degree angle.

realtimeshepherd said: ↑

Additionally, your proposal doesn't cater for the case where the target is within the turning circle. Normally, you still would not be travelling in the direction *you* expect (not directly away from the start of the manoeuvre) Are you suggesting to put in a reverse turn even if the target is within the turning range? What if you had enough room to reach it by turning but if you wanted to correct the vector to *your* expectation then there was not enough room for that? Should the vehicle perform an additional orbit so it crosses the target using your preferred vector? Would you want to force that behaviour on all players?
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The move order in my diagram could be anywhere along the green line, even extending outwards, and the behaviour of the satellite would be identical. I'm not really understanding what you are saying here.

Contrast the two systems:

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If a satellite is at position 1, and you issue a move command to A, which makes more sense: black line or red? Both will eventually cross position A after an orbit if they can't do it within their turning circles, but the method I propose allows the player to also control final heading, and it's movement is consistent regardless of whether the order is within it's turning circle or not.
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When you select a point for the satellite to move to, you must select a heading, similar to selection orientation for a building. You could also have an indicator showing ETA to pass over and possibily if it will be this orbit or the next.

drunkenorc · September 4, 2013

Nothing about this isn't what I want.

Didn't read both pages entirely, but if it hasn't been mentioned, all this needs is an in-game dotted line showing the current orbit path, and maybe holding down alt or something to see what an altered path would look like.

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