Some changes in how we use PTE

I would agree if this did not break all Live usage for people using mods. We will be fixing the current issues and releasing it once it is safe to release

OUCH. Yeah, please fix those. Yikes.

"paid" and "work" in conjunction are just words too.

You might be a little too close to the problem

Patch?Patch?Patch?Patch?Patch?Patch?Patch?Patch?Patch?Patch?Patch?Patch?Patch?Patch?

Problem? there is only a tree here

....a burnt tree.

Ooooh

BURN.

Are you able to use UI mods (i.e. hotbuild) in a normal match, i.e. ranked 1v1?
I just noticed that there is a one click shortcut (in the hotbuild mod) for Turret with walls. This sort of thing is not acceptable in a competitive RTS. Starcraft 2 detects keyboard macros for this very reason. If this sort of thing is built into the standard build of the game then it's fine because everyone has access to it. Otherwise people can build mods which give them an advantage.

There is, but I don't use it. I'm not cheeseball.

Whether you use it or not. This shouldn't be allowed and Uber (@jables) needs to make sure this is changed asap. I'm happy for people to use mods on local AI games or in lobby game which clearly state mods allowed, but not in competitive online play. There is no way this game would ever become an eSports game with this allowed.

Idk. They could ask Pro to remove it. It's only a few lines of code.

I'm not talking about removing the "Turret with walls" autobuild feature in the hotbuild mod. If you want to use this mod in a modded matchup thats fine. I'm talking about removing the ability to use mods in standard games where your opponent has no idea you are using a mod.

Just to update here. This will probably be pushed until tomorrow at the earliest. I want to make sure we have this fixed before it goes live. Bad enough bug we don't want it slipping out.

Being a good player means to a) know how to play the game and b) know how to equip yourself to play at your best ability. That means you have to read into mods as well. That's the whole point. PA is not like sc2, were fighting the interface is part of the game (I don't mean that in a negative way, it is fun, but it's just a different kind of game)

That would be terribad. Though there should be some sort of indicator for WHAT mods your opponent is using.

They are using the API that the PA server offers to clients. What kind of UI they are using should be completely irrelevant.
The only limit might be somewhere with AI's that play at 10k APM for you. But that's pretty far away from what the AI can do right now and actually the API the client has is too limited to build any meaningful AI. The "place walls around turret" is already riding the edge of what's possible.

First, I'm not even sure the imbawall turrets are working anymore. Used to be ALT+click, just tested and it doesn't do anything at all.
Previously the walls blueprint were simply stacking on top of the turret, so they weren't building. And before that it was working and was awesome
Maybe @proeleert can clarify this.

Second, Hotbuild is not really different from Uber's own hotkey system, at the particularity of building cycle and a much better UI for the settings

It is still working if you shift-queue it, no idea why it is broken if you omit shift. I think

Slipping out, eh?
I won't tell if you won't

It still works but you have to make sure you are doing it right.
Don't zoom while doing it place it in the middle of your screen. Wait a bit.