Will something be done./Does something need to be done.

After reading some of the thoughts of the stupidest people in the world I felt my self feeling much dumber.

Perhaps you will get that as you read through this. The steam community's ignorance is just unmatched, the only other group of people whom has displayed that degree of ignorance is some of the people on reddit. Both seem to just be totally blind to the fact they are getting more then just alpha. And though uber has shown more then a strong face, even bared fangs against some of the idiotic people of the internet. Perhaps, something should be done. Stripping the rewards from each tier and offering a bare-bones set which literately gives you only game access and beta access. The 90$ price tag was a shock to the steam section because most of the core users are horribly poor, and used to buying games during steam sales for 33% off, which means they are getting games for 5.99$ and what ever else. However PA is nothing the world has ever seen before, a diamond in the rough. And if we get enough speed by the retail release I hope to have not only our strong community here, but the idiotic masses following blindly.

The final price point is perfectly fine, 40$ for this game is more then generous. However, for beta and alpha. In my opinion the steam group of backers don't deserve the extra's and bonus. Extra commanders and the soundtrack will perhaps be up to buy on ubers site when the game is released along with different commanders (valued at 9.85$ each). I valued the early access to be worth 10$ essentially per access. So we are looking at 60$ essentially for alpha however that is all they get. Quelling the 90$ price point issues. However, to those whom may feel slighting paying 90$ so far. Perhaps uber won't leave you in the cold and offer you an additional end game key to get one of your friends to play with you. ( In the end the goal should be to increase the player base, with a larger player base the greater the game will be) And if there are charges for extra commanders then there will also be income from those purchases. And as we know people love to buy things that look cool.

So, These are my thoughts. Let's have what you think. Should we just bunker in and take the shelling as we lose some of our defenses. Or should we build some pelters and strike back.

Just ignore the forums, considering that PA is number 3 on the "top sellers" on steam (and every other game in the top 4 has a huge discount) im assuming its selling well.

The ones complaining just gets to much attention.

Since PA is currently the #3 top seller on Steam I don't think anything needs to be done at all. The numbers speak for themselves.

Oh no I am well aware, but the point was to let the player base expand exponentially. Instead of how it is right now. (keeping in mind, I am much more then a 90$ backer. )

Game need to be done, that's all I need.

I dont think its nessesary to change the price.

They (Uber & steam) may however wish to make it clear (a huge font text just below the buy button) that it will be aloot cheaper on release.

(I too have supported them with more then 90$, so i wouldent realy care if they lowered the price, but i know that there will be some people that will feel cheated)

Yeah, I agree with everything you've said utterly. And at the end somewhere I mentioned maybe an extra copy of the game to make those who would feel slighted compensated. Though these are just blind idea's but I clearly feel that something should be done to stop the ship from being sinking. (though as some of you will say there is no such thing as bad publicity) But if the bad publicity continues, it makes it seem like uber doesn't care about any fans. And all they care about is money blindly. Which we know is not the case!

Uber need to pay for servers you playing on, this is why alpha should have high price.

Right now (if trust statistics) there is 300 people in 131 games. Each game need one CPU core and some RAM, let's say 0.5-1GB of RAM and currently they use Windows as OS.
Uber use Amazon EC2 and SoftLayer:
http://www.softlayer.com/cloudlayer/bui ... -own-cloud
By this calculator hosting of 16 games (16CPU, 16GB RAM, 100GB storage, Windows) will cost 800$ per month.

Think about that well, please.

PS: There is currently only 10000 people with alpha access, so there is only 130 games.
But with low price like if they set 30-40$ price (trolls will complain about it anyway) it's might be pretty expensive to host lot of games.

So are you valuing the alpha price at more then 20$ on top of the base price?

I would personally support the idea of adding a second copy of the fully released game (when available) to the Galactic Editions, or something else of the developer's selection.

I just think if Uber set 60$ price it's not change anything related to Steam forums. Why? Because people who make post like this usually buy games for 3-10$ on sales. They hate EA/Ubisoft/etc for 40$ price not because they release ****, but because of price. And if PA will cost 30$ it's won't change their opinion.

Uber can't set really low price because there will be even more complaining about games lags, bugs and low hardware compatibility. People who pay less usually think less about what's they're buying, so they usually complain more.

PS: I think it's was mistake to make alpha available to buy though Steam, but now there is no way back.

I agree with the ps. 40$ for the retail is a good price point. I wasn't suggesting changing that. I was saying take out all of the extra stuff drop the price to 60 for alpha and give people who payed 90 a retail copy They are still having a good profit margin. But I agree with the poor people and cheap computers. That couldn't be more true.

I think it was too early for Steam,
But as it's a major platform and will give testing info on how the game interacts with the Steam system.....it is a catch 22 in many ways

Steam didn't put the game up like we needed them to, it was steam's way or the highway. Which is why I proposed a different model for the alpha to get out there simply because steam wouldn't use the model which we needed them too.

Sorry, but 60$ price won't change anything.

Check this please: Prison Architect
http://store.steampowered.com/app/233450/
They have 100,000 of non-steam backers/pre-orders (total $3,321,000) and it's price on Steam is 30$, but there is tons of complaining about it.

People who poor, but like to play games buy re-imported copies from Russia.
Is it's really fair? No, but our world isn't fair.

I already get more than enough for money I payed. I get all answers I want directly from developers, I know what game they want to make, I know tons of technical things. If somebody think 90$ is unfair price they probably did a big mistake when they give their money to somebody.

It's not about "profit margin", it's about developing games by other way: people who want games pay for them and help to develop them.

Do you really think all these trolls can ever be interested in RTS like PA? I don't think so.

I fear you are on a different page, then I. Along with that I am not following your train of thought either. You are rambling on about things that are, well not relevant. The point of this post was to look at if something had to be done, knowing uber won't change a thing. The 90$ package offered is still offered. And they have no developer, which means kickstarter. However they are already funded. Which means they are hopefully gaining profit with every purchase right now.

Perhaps English isn't your first language, and that is causing the confusion? I am not concerned about "trolls" in the lease. However I would like to expand the player pool, simply because the bigger the player pool the higher chance it has to make it to e sports.

That's true, I non-native English speaker, but I understand what you want to say in first post. But I think it will be a big mistake to set lower price at this moment.

As I already noticed: it's too early to show game to mass audience: there is tons of bugs, there is server lags and not working match making.

And there is much easier way to expand players pool: make "free weekend access" promotion. I totally sure it's bring much more players for game and won't touch the price, it's let Uber to test their server infrastructure, it's let to test game across tons of hardware configuration.

A far better way to expand the player pool is to announce the start of the beta which will bring in the beta key holders and drop the Steam price to $60.

I assure you that Uber will do just that when they feel that PA is ready for it.

Exactly. We want to grow the community in stages.

We are quite happy with the launch so far.

Now locking this thread.