Wazupwiop's Juiced Support Slayer Guide

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  1. wazupwiop

    wazupwiop New Member

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    Wazupwiop's Juiced Slayer Support Guide

    Do you think hacking and building turrets are for wimps and sissies? Do you like to burst full of the juices? Do you hate wasting time on useless team mates who stand still and die immediately after you overheal them? Do you want to be like (Insert Rambo, Chuck Norris, Jackie Chan, or other fighting dude) that guy? If you follow this guide, you are going to be one butt-kickin, airstrike throwin, Italian dude from down under.
    On a more serious note, I went 16-0 with this strategy and I was just messing around. If you play seriously, you can juice several times in one game and get TONS of kills.

    1. Endorsements and Upgrade Order

    To use this strategy effectively, you will need to use the proper endorsements. Basically I use the standard RoF/Armor/Skill Regen. I will tell you why later, but basically just use this endorsement build for all support strategies, not just this one. Skill regen is NOT a must for THIS strategy. You can replace the bronze endorsement with whatever you want, but I am addicted to airstrikes.
    Your upgrade order should look like this:

    Firebase 2, Hack 2
    Passive 2
    Airstrike 2
    Passive 3
    Airstrike 3

    2. General Strategy

    You will gain your kills in bursts by using this strategy. To burst kill you will need juice and a firebase to fall back upon. Start off by laying your firebase in a location that will be your retreat spot. Hack it and overheal it.

    Go out and melee bots, dont take risks. After gaining juice, bring out your heal gun and go to town on the enemy. You will probably be forced out of their base once or twice, this is okay. Retreat back to your firebase if you are followed and watch your low-health enemies die from a lead overdose while seeking a revenge kill.

    If your firebase goes down, keep retreating back into your team mates. You want to help them get kills because they are incapable otherwise. After regaining health, repeat this strategy.

    By the 7 minute mark, you should be able to buy juice. You can juice chain or just keep meleeing bots. I found that I didnt need to buy juice because meleeing bots plus healing friendlies will give you juice extremely fast.

    Your endorsements play a big role in this strategy. Your armor and health are extremely important. You need the Gold RoF for the H/H kills. Armor will help you survive enemy pros and bot fire. Health Regen might be decent for this strategy because you could get back to the action more quickly. The other support guides require skill regen, but this strategy is more juice based, therefore you dont need the skill regen, but it can be helpful. Some recommended bronze endorsements would be Health Regen, Skill Regen (obviously), or maybe juice or speed.

    3. How to Slay

    The slayer support requires a different play style than gunner and assault. You have to prioritize. Basically when you juice, you need to take down high-damage targets first. This includes rocket turrets, firebases, gunners, and tanks. After doing this, go do whatever you want with your juice. It makes your enemy really angry when they get killed by your H/H gun btw.

    The shotgun is not my weapon of choice as a juiced support. Assaults easily dodge your shots and the shotgun only works at close range. The heal gun works at about mid-range and can extend to med-long range once it has locked on. It also sucks the life out of your enemy and gives it to you. This is very handy when you are juiced against turrets.

    4. How to Melee Bots without Dying

    When you melee bots, you need to be careful of your surroundings. You need to melee the bots from the back, this way they wont attack you. If pros start shooting at you, retreat through your bots while hurt gunning any enemies or bots as you go to gain a little bit of health.

    To be effective when meleeing bots, melee the slims first, then blackjacks. Slims die in one melee, black jacks die in five or six. Grapple the bouncers, meleeing them is stupid.

    5. Tackling Pros without Juice

    You have two choices for this. One, lure them into your firebase, which is a sissy tactic. Two, you can AMBUSH!!!! To ambush, you need to jump down behind your enemy. Shoot them twice and they should die. Dont ambush an enemys front, you will die from your stupidity.

    6. Laugh

    You know, it is really funny when you start walking around the map and your opponents start running away from you whenever you get near them. Just laugh, juice, and send them to the spawn room where they can cry for their mommies and call you a cheater, send you rage mail, and send profanity over the mic. Just laugh, and repeat the process in the next game.

    7. Summary

    If this strategy doesnt work for you, you probably are doing something wrong. This strategy only works if you have map control. If you lack map control, this probably wont work. Once the enemies are outside your spawn, you really need to play defensively.

    With this said, if you have decent map control, you can be a monster. I went 16-0 as support, which I would say is pretty good for the average support player. The idea of this strategy is to have a different playstyle when you need it. I know three support playstyles and I use them all, but I switch between one and another as I see fit. This strategy is not suited for all circumstances, but I ended the game in ten minutes with a friend playing a good gunner. Everyone else on my team went negative and we had 2 people under level 10 on our team, and the other team had 60+ members with one bot level dude. We were outnumbered half of the game, and we still won. It works under certain circumstances.

    I have also used this strategy for taking down rocket turrets. If you dodge a few rockets, you can take down a level 3 rocket turret with almost full health. Obviously turrets are probably not what you should be taking down as support, but when you have a team full of noobs, you really have no choice but to be a one man wrecking crew, aka the juiced slaying support.
  2. wazupwiop

    wazupwiop New Member

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    Reserved for more juiced awesomeness.
  3. TOM12121112

    TOM12121112 New Member

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    tl:dr:

    melee bots

    juice

    buy juice

    buy juice

    buy juice

    admire k/d
  4. wazupwiop

    wazupwiop New Member

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    No, it is more like this:

    Juice, Kill, Jet Ski Taunt

    Juice, Kill, Jet Ski Taunt

    Juice, Airstrike, Kill, Jet Ski Taunt

    Repeat and laugh
  5. xRustySpoon

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    I vote for replacing the original guide with what Tom posted.

    Like seriously, isn't this what you're supposed to do every time you play support?
  6. wazupwiop

    wazupwiop New Member

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    I have heard a lot of people complaining about the lack of juicing power of the support. Meleeing bots makes up for this "lack" of juicing power.
  7. Foolamancer

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    Not really. Supports can Juice extremely quickly, yeah, but it isn't the core of their strategy. What wazupwiop has posted here eschews healing in favor of just Juicing the hell out of people.

    Basically, it's a for the lulz thing. Leave base -> set Firebase as retreat area -> melee bots for a minute -> Juice rush -> GOTO 1.

    Which is all fine and dandy, but I'd suggest adding that this isn't a great competitive strategy. A coordinated enemy team won't simply allow you to beat down on their bots. You can get a few melees in, but you're going to have to run away eventually; they won't leave their bots unguarded once they figure out that you're farming Juice off of them.

    That's okay, though, because - like I said in my guide - Supports gain Juice really quickly from healing people. Healing friendlies nets you a huge amount of Juice. If you can't melee enemy bots, go heal friendly ones.

    Or, even better, heal friendly Pros. That helps you get Juice and helps your teammates survive. That way everybody gets a nice, shiny K/D spread.
  8. wazupwiop

    wazupwiop New Member

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    This strategy is how to use the support offensively if you have a bunch of noobs on your team. Otherwise, use another strategy.
  9. TOM12121112

    TOM12121112 New Member

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    i would say that if you have a bunch of noobs on your team, support isnt the class to be picking. and juice chaining is a pretty crappy way to win anyway.

    im pretty sure i could have pulled way more kills than skill in his topic, but i choose not to juice chain because it isnt necessary and is kind of a cowardly thing to do.
  10. Solon64

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    Juice chaining is hardly a "cowardly" thing to do. There are many players out there, myself included as one, who feel that if you aren't doing everything in your power within the rules of the game to win then you are being ineffective and not playing to your potential. Ask yourself this: is the tactic in question (juice chaining) within the rules of the game? Yes. Will it help you get more kills, push bots, take out turrets, etc? Yes. If the answer to those questions is yes, then you should do it.

    Juice chaining will not happen against skilled opponents, they simply won't let you. And if you're up against pubs, then you won't need it anyway and it doesn't matter.

    People need to stop treating juice chains like they're some evil dastardly move that people with honor don't do. Because the people that DO use them are going to be stomping them up and down the match and laughing while they do it.
  11. Foolamancer

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    +1

    Is it annoying as hell to be on the receiving end of a Juice chain? Yes. Is it "cowardly" to Juice chain? No.
  12. wazupwiop

    wazupwiop New Member

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    I, personally, am okay with juice chaining. We will all have our times of domination.
  13. xRustySpoon

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    I don't know about the other people in the topic, but when I play support, I find a way to heal teammates, set up a firebase in a strategic location, melee bots when the opportunity presents itself, and kill the occasional retard who chooses to get too close to the barrel of my shotgun.

    I just feel like this guide is saying you have to pick either this strategy or an actual support strategy. Like seriously, can't you do both at the same time?
  14. TOM12121112

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    there is a difference between juice chaining to win and juice chaining to rack up kills.

    juice chaining as a support in the context of this guide, is for racking up kills.
  15. wazupwiop

    wazupwiop New Member

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    As I said earlier, I made this guide for those who play support with noobs who have to win the game single-handedly. I discuss taking down turrets and possible endorsement differences between the traditional support and the slayer support. If you have team mates who actually can play the game will enough to win with you playing the traditional support, go ahead and play traditional support, there is nothing wrong with that.

    I just got tired of not being able to play support because of terrible team mates. I felt like I had to choose gunner or assault because my team couldn't destroy the enemy as well as they needed to. These are my thoughts on playing an offensive, more of a kill-oriented support. But if you play slayer support, you can't just run around with a juiced shotty and expect to win, you actually have to take down turrets, and I discussed that.
  16. Govnerplatypus

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    This.

    Otherwise, I don't play support if I want to win a game single-handedly. I would either play Assassin, Tank, or Assault.
  17. ReqAsh

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    :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

    I have been there.
  18. Light My Pyre

    Light My Pyre New Member

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    Heal team
    Melee bots
    Juice
    Spawnstrike
    Juice
    Juice
    Juice
    Jetski taunt
  19. Immortal303

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    #'s is rapidly becoming my favorite crybaby..

    Let's pose this question. Would u have a problem with a juice-priority guide for any other class? I doubt it.

    #'s doesnt really care, he's just looking for attention. He also shares a common concept of the Support class. Other than jabbing at Support just to be a douche, he doesnt consider it a "slayer" class. I've gone 49-1 without ever deploying a firebase or meleeing a single bot. Yeah, I juiced 10 times in that match from overhealing teammates and kicking the **** out of people. I suppose I was just supposed to hold on to that juice because using it woud've been "unkind".

    Gonna go ahead and apologize for ruining ur thread. Tom and his buddies should be along anytime now to post bs about how support sucks and immortal is "made", they follow me around, guess they just like the fact that I acknowledge their existence.

    U make good guides and prolly play a good support.
  20. wazupwiop

    wazupwiop New Member

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    Thanks for the compliment. I have been told that my support is pretty good, but I am not as good as I want to be. I still die 3-4 times in a pub match with a few good players. I still heal and save team mates pretty often though. Lately I have been playing a lot of Tank, Assault, and Gunner. I alternate which classes I main to keep myself sharp with all of them. I alternate between Gunner and Support for mains with tank and assault being my second preferences.

    Being able to alternate between the classes is key to MNC. I have been told that my tank is near-perfect, but I know that it is not. I play all the classes well, but I am always looking to improve. I make these guides so that others can try some different playstyles other than the traditional
    RoF/Armor/Skill support who sits in the base and hacks a turret to get wiped out by a juiced assassin. Tom#'s is pretty cool, but the trolling is annoying.

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