Way to discourage backdooring during overtime

Discussion in 'Monday Night Combat PC Wishlist' started by MagicalElf, March 20, 2011.

  1. MagicalElf

    MagicalElf New Member

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    This seems like a no-brainer to me. The easiest way to change this is to have an increase for the death timer during overtime. This would take the focus of the last 2 minutes of the game away from people kamikaze-ing the moneyball over and over again. Right now with an instant respawn, there is no reason to not bd the moneyball but if they had to wait 10-15 sec for a respawn if they die during the end of the game, this could discourage this from happening.

    Also, the other way to do this is to have an actual death penalty (the difference between DOTA and LoL). However, this would be much harder to implement correctly and it still probably wouldn't matter as much during the very end of the game since there is a time limit.
  2. [451]Fireman

    [451]Fireman New Member

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    Blow up the other team's money ball before overtime.
  3. BroTranquilty

    BroTranquilty New Member

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    A) Most backdoor attempts are cliche. I am waiting as a tank on top of the moneyball ring when the enemy has a competent assault, because obvious assault is obvious. Assault tactics are as predictable as Ken's Shoryukens.

    B) Most backdoor attempts that are GOOD, aren't killable. This is why the assault needs moneyball damage nerf, he can kill the power core for the annihilator platform on steel peel, he can kill it from the side tunnel on lazor razor, it is quite ridiculous trying to stop it solo (but possible with the right luck/skill).

    C) Overtime is designed to gurantee an outcome, so there isn't so many stalemate games. Switch to assault until they nerf it, and wreck stuff in overtime yourself. Alternatively, play some tank or gunner and learn to defend properly in overtime, and you will lose more when your on a bad team, but learning to defend in overtime is a great skill.

    D) Why (and how) discourage it in overtime? If you don't like overtime play, play non-overtime servers?
  4. RayHanley

    RayHanley New Member

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    backdooring is not a problem

    and you made a mistake, not being able to win in time, not preventing the overtime that you're having trouble in; the other team deserves to win by exploiting your weaknesses

    it is not that much of a no-brainer as you think but if you don't want it to happen, prevent it from happening; or, as bro says, play on non-OT servers
  5. Sayed Stafa

    Sayed Stafa New Member

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    I think "backdooring" is a legit strategy. If your defense wasn't enough to stop them, then you didn't try hard enough. Besides, it works both ways. Not only can your enemy backdoor attack you, but you can do the same with them. You only have 2 minutes to destroy the moneyball. If your opponent finds an open window in your defenses before your team, then they deserve the win. Who said that you have to destroy all the turrets before taking out the moneyball? It's the moneyball that's the goal, not the turrets.
  6. MasterXC

    MasterXC New Member

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    Some servers have really long overtimes...and a base full of L3 turrets is nothing to sneeze at when you don't have juice.
  7. RayHanley

    RayHanley New Member

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    let's not use these rare non-standard examples
  8. Ace42

    Ace42 New Member

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    Overtime is boring, and happens far too often; back-dooring is incredibly effective, even if you find it predictable. It doesn't benefit all classes evenly, so it is unfair.

    It needs looking at; some of the suggestions on the Steam forums have been:

    *Only go to Overtime if the health of both money balls is even at fulltime.

    *Cause the health of money balls to deplete at a steady rate over the two minutes of over-time, so that any head-start's worth of damage during the game proper can hamper the ability of back-dooring by narrowing the time-frame they have available to do so.

    Although a simple redesign of the turret nodes / money-ball shielding layout could mitigate this somewhat.
  9. Tigerhawk71

    Tigerhawk71 Member

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    You can guarantee when that ball drops as overtime hits i'm standing somewhere nearby. Probably with juice. Assassin backdoors are so easy.

    Whatever it takes to get the win.

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