Two Questions before I buy. :D

Discussion in 'Planetary Annihilation General Discussion' started by kaldrax, August 4, 2013.

  1. kaldrax

    kaldrax New Member

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    Hello everyone!
    I just found this very promising looking game, which already seems to have many fans although it's still in development. I would really like to become part of this.

    Before though, I got two questions which you can hopefully answer me:

    1. Is an Intel 4000HD Notebook graphics card enough to run the game?
    2. Is there any registration for the Beta?

    Because 70$ for instant access is quite alot of money for a game which isn't even finished in my opinion...so I need to know if it runs at least and maybe if there is a chance to get into the Beta without investing so much money. :)
  2. KNight

    KNight Post Master General

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    I'm assuming you've only looked at Steam's Early Access Program so far, you should check out the different Editions available in the Uber Store.

    Mike
  3. SXX

    SXX Post Master General

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    Intel HD4000 it's minimum officially supported iGPU for PA, at least when alpha starts neutrino said it this way. But it's was said about release version of game when all optimizations are done.

    Actually I tested game myself on my notebook with HD3000 and 1366x768, on minimal graphics (shadows disabled), it's have enough performance to finish 1v1 game, but FPS sometimes drop very low. HD4000 it's more powerful, but it's still just integrated card which isn't really suitable for games.

    So it will "run", but actually I can't say what limitations you can met with this card in current alpha build. I doubt you can play on it in some 4v4 battle with tons of units.

    Also, what screen resolution you have?
  4. kaldrax

    kaldrax New Member

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    I do not use steam I checked the uberent store of course. By "registration for Beta" I meant a free registration of course. ;)
    I got the same screen resolution on my Notebook as you have. Additionally there is a Nvidia 6100M built in, but this should be at the same power level as the Intel 4000HD...
  5. KNight

    KNight Post Master General

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    In that case no such luck it seems so far. Considering the KS roots of PA, I don't see how any kind of 'free' registration should be taken as a given, also ESP is a rarer than many would have you think, it helps to say what you mean and don't skip on the details.

    Mike
  6. SatanPetitCul

    SatanPetitCul Active Member

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    I prefer to warn you that PA is not a game at the moment (it is an alpha version of a game). Even it looks promising, the game at its curent maturity doesn't worth 70$. I you spend that money, it is more to support the Uber studio, than to play a game.

    Some people are disapointed because they expect a stable and enjoyable game for this price. It is not really the case, be advised.
  7. SXX

    SXX Post Master General

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    Can you attach your DxDiag.txt as explained in my signature?
  8. kaldrax

    kaldrax New Member

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    I am absolutely aware of that.
    Sure. What do you want with my system specs anyways?

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  9. SXX

    SXX Post Master General

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    People who asking about hardware compatibility are very different, so I trust to DxDiag more. I just want to be sure that if I give you some recommendation it's will be correct for your system. I checked what exactly laptop model you have (IdeaPad U410) and what videocard it's include.

    Now I can say that PA should work on your hardware without problems, but for this moment you probably meet heavy FPS drops in large games. Everybody have FPS drops, but when 560Ti owner have 18fps you probably will have ~8fps. :)

    Also even if you don't buy this game you should always keep your drivers up to date because your is outdated:
    Here's link:
    https://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail ... ldID=22842

    Especially for PA your Nvidia card (which isn't actually faster than HD4000) probably could work much better than Intel one because Intel OpenGL drivers are crap. Intel spend much more time on Direct3D optimizations, but not OpenGL.
  10. tatsujb

    tatsujb Post Master General

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    XD... you mention this now? No it's better, stilll you'll have to run the game with all graphics turned to minimum and shadows off and will only be able to play 1v1 on small planets.

    Overall it would really be a good idea to sell the laptop and get a cheap desktop.
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    SXX Post Master General

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    Geforce 610M is low-end videocard, but it's definitely have best performance of OpenGL than Intel one. So I think he'll able to play on big planets too, probably not 3v3v3 games, but :)
  12. tatsujb

    tatsujb Post Master General

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    really I don't see how these laptop cards (such as intel HD4000) are even part of the list.

    optimize this all you want, it still won't work. And the gpu's not alone here in the problematic, I think a better CPU is in order too.
  13. KNight

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    In theory only when you need/want to run an offline game, the server handles the SIM, obviously the client has some CPU stuff to do, but compared to SupCom the stuff a PA client will have to do is significantly reduced.

    Mike
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    SXX Post Master General

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    His Nvidia card have quite better OpenGL support than Intel card. I don't see any reason why he won't able to play on it.

    Why you need CPU for PA client? Planet generation it's all what CPU used for.
  15. tatsujb

    tatsujb Post Master General

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    No not really, of course most of the work is offloaded to the server but the cpu definitely does not stay idle during gameplay.

    Ask yourself this: why did Uber think it was of the utmost importance this game be develloped in 64 bit and with multi core support?
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    I never said it sat idle, if the CPU wasn't doing anything, the computer wouldn't be doing ANYTHING obviously.

    But as I actually said, if you compare what the PA client needs to do with say a Game of SupCom, there is a significant reduction.

    Because they want an engine that will last, and 32-bit will not last.

    It's like why we don't built Steam powered Trains anymore, because we have better options.

    Mike
    Last edited: August 5, 2013
  17. tatsujb

    tatsujb Post Master General

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    I know that :?:
  18. KNight

    KNight Post Master General

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    Sorry, quoted the wrong post.

    Mike
  19. neutrino

    neutrino low mass particle Uber Employee

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    There is nothing wrong with the hd4000 that some more work on our end won't fix. In fact some of these chips perform better than older discrete cards because you don't have to deal with shuffling stuff across the bus as much.

    Also the modern CPU's are pretty good.

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