Turrets and Juice

So i was wondering what you all think, lately juice has been a main concern for players, including myself who is fresh to MNC and chain juice steamrolls me and my friends who are also new. I have seen a few ideas for the changing of juice
-5min to the timer
-remove it
-increase the price of the juice in the center.

In my eyes by making juice higher priced it will become more of an endgame item. However because of this chain juice i dont see many turrets getting built to protect the base and in the case of this, steamrolling will happen. I think turrets need to have more strength and purpose to cause players to want to invest that couple bucks saved up into a turret instead of saving to juice.

The annihilator too, its cheap and doesnt do much damage, it gets the occasional kill but i see the annihilator as free assists over free couple kills. The map money bought items need more purpose over the juice sign. Juice should be gained by killing bots and other juice gaining things like endorsements and player kills, and bullseye of course.

What do you all think about this, i say bump the juice sign to $1000 and i think more people would be buying turrets for those kills, and better base defense would rise.

Only thing that should be made is creating a 1 min cooldown for juice

There are a million threads about this already.

I dont see a min cooldown effective enough, this would still cause people to be able to chain. Lately i see teams using juice individually. So if you put a 1min cooldown it would effect the person who just used juice, however his buddy waiting to use his wouldnt be effected. It could still technically be a chain with some inconvenience.

Im sorry there are a million threads about juice, i would just like to talk more about how turrets can be more effective.

What if turrets where cheaper?

There are a million topics on that as well. Most conversations are about how a juiced assassin can wreck at base of level 3 turret in seconds.

What is next, you going to make a tread about annoying bunny hopping supports?

Well you dont have to act like a ****. I was just trying to talk about this kind of stuff instead of having to deal with flaming trolls like you

Maybe if people stopped trying to get annoyed by threads like this and attempted to talk to the newer players like me making them, things would get talked about quicker and help the devs trying to make the fan base playing happy.

But nope you just have to be a sour puss.

The annihilator is still too weak as well. Its called an annihilator and is more like a $250 hand holder.

FYI, the Annihilator is designed to kill all of the bots pushing your team's lanes and to heavily damage Jackbot XLs. Sure it causes a small amount of damage to Pros but it is not designed to kill much other than bots. Without bots the other team cannot drop your Moneyball so using the Annihilator is a great way to keep your Moneyball up or to push your bots into the enemy base without lane pushing.

If you think the Annihilator is for free assists or any amount of kills then you are using it wrong.

Thanx dude i had no idea. That changes my whole idea about it completely. Ive noticed it take out some bots but i had no idea it was like a giant reset button. good to know for real!

Ill be spreading the word to all my buddies about that tonight lol

I wish new players would read through topics on the first pages and find out a lot of their concerns have already been expressed and find out the developers are aware of them.

Might want to add that to the wishlist

Actually there is a topic about that on the wishlist already. See I read the forums before posting...

Not really in favor of a juice buy cooldown (individually or for teams) but I am in favor of not gaining money while juiced or incrementally increasing cost or a flat cost increase (in that order). Along with a slight nerf to the sniper's juice rate and I think juice would be perfect.

I just started sniper i didnt really notice much of a juice issue, after sniping down enough bots and players i was able to collect it a few times a match. I never thought of the no money gain, and that would be pretty acceptable, but my vote still goes in the flat rate cost.
-Thanks for the good opinion

Rud might be a bit crotchety, but that doesn't really excuse you for making a another thread on a subject that there is already plenty of ongoing discussion on. Maybe you should get a little more used to the game before you start making suggestions on how the game could be changed. When you clearly don't know how the annihilator works, and you make statements like "turrets are useless", then most people aren't going to take you very seriously.

I'm not crotchety, that implies I'm old.

My opinion should actually be taken highly, considering i am new and when things dont make sense to NEW players there is a problem of gaining new fans. Devs should want new players able to join a brand new game and feel as if they arent going to be steamrolled everytime, and if things dont make sense thats no good. Sure its fine that i found out things by being one of the people to jump on a forum, but think of how many players wont.

Maybe some new protips are needed for loading pages. Things like the annihilator will fry all your enemys bots would be good to see. Without those little facts i would of never known robots spawning on a team with a weak money ball have weaker robots.

I might be new but dont think i dont understand the full function of this game. Its not that offbeat, just the little gimmicks are hard to pick up on. You all didnt know **** either at one point

wah-wah-wah boo hoo hoo. That is all I just read there. All of these things have been mentioned. Instead of flaying around like an idiot, go and read threw the forum. We have discussed tactics, bots, juice, k/d, win, losing, annihilator, mickey cantor being annoying, which endorsements are good for which classes, and so on.

Your opinion would be something the developer want to know if you were expressing a truly new opinion, but so far you have said the same thing we all have.

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Anyone ever tell you that you are just as repetitious as the forum posting on the site All i ever see you write is that something is noob and reworded sentences about how its all been said and done. So why dont you take your own opinion, youve said it more than once. Its been said 100 times, so really your just a broken record. I get it you dont care what i have to say just because youve said it 100times before me cause im sure you have. I was just replying to what Poh said, your opinion is really unnecessary every time i write something. and BTW Mickey is awesome, not annoying. HIYOOOOOOOO