The draw!

Anyone else get this annoying protag?
just got it yesterday and i must say it was hell to get!

I've been playing support since I got this game and have over 42 million heal units but my hurt gun suffered..

Couldn't figure out how to get alot of kills other then jumping around... well the answer is!

Juice chain!!
Juice/Armor/Rate
Heal everything get juice and run into battle
Juice up and hurt beam everything!

2500!!!

Getting killed by a juice hurt beam always gets the same reaction out of me.

"Oh, ****. OH GOD NONONONONONONONONONONOOOOOONONONONO!!!"

so...juice chain intentionally, avoid the objective, and go straight for kills...
for the sole purpose of a protag?

Don't act like you've never done it. Some protags are just impossible to get naturally.

How else will everyone know how big your willy is?

Posting how many times you've earned "Heck Yeah" is a decent way to get me in bed with someone.

nope. anything hard to get i really dont have.

Grenade launcher kills: 225

hurt gun kills: 250

shuriken kills: maybe 150

i would say the smg and railgun arent hard weapons to get kills with.

even with my 15000 minigun kills i only have about 350 mortar kills.

the closest thing i can think of to farm protags is force myself to upgrade grapple instead of slam on my gunner, which, unlike juice, would be more of a handicap.

well honestly try getting hurt gun kills without juice
its impossible

most of the other hard to get pro tags need some sort of endorsement enhancement likes skills or clip or rate..

i just dont bother trying to get them. i just grow bored of the protags. i have maxed quite a few of the primary ones as well as most of the gunner tags, and ALL of the maxed out protags (aside from 2500 assassinations and 2500 shotgun kills) are all stupid.

hurt guns for example. the draw is pretty dumb sounding, so i have no interest in it. i use my hurt gun for healing others or MAYBE to sap health from bots. if i need to kill something i use my shotgun.
i played support more than most people think. i just realized there is really no reason to go for a hurt gun kill over a shotgun kill because the hurtgun has almost the same range as a shotgun, but the shotgun is much more deadly.

I personally use it to clean up a kill. It usually ends up as an assist though.

hurt gun has a longer range then the tanks jet flame

and the shotguns power diminishes the farther away you go..

just sick of seeing the same pro tags all the time i try to go for the others

I still need 300+ shotgun for 2500 and 1500+ air strike for air master

after that im retiring the support class

to me, any decent player wont let you hurt gun them from full health, so the only way to get a kill on them is to sneak up on them with a shotgun.

on bad players, why waste the time trying to hurtgun them if you can kill them 3 times as fast with a shotgun?

i run armor/RoF/health recovery as my primary build when i play solo, and it allows for you to withstand much more of a beating while still putting out the same ammount of damage.

bronze health combined with passive 2 (as soon as the game starts) gives you just as quick of health recovery as a similarly specced assassin.

in any kind of competitive play, chasing people around with a shotgun will more than likely get you removed from the team, so i put RoF on gold and just heal people.

(NINJA'D)

feedle, the shotgun isnt too hard to get if you run my above build. i used that build to carry me from 2000 shotgun kills to over 6000 and it is still my primary build for public matches.

ive been trying
rate/armor/speed for shotty and it works well

I used to run armor/rate/skill and its the best overall support build i think
I'll give that other build a try with health regen.

Gold health regen and passive 2 makes it faster then assassin but I think he needs gold armor since hes always the target if your healing someone.

Slower rate helps you build juice faster but higher rate keeps things healed which people are targetting.

Still for a class which i main ive neglected alot of his skills. Relied on healing and hacking for kills. Protags are kind of a guideline to make you try and use them all to the max.

I have 2k hurt gun kills vs 3k shotgun kills, with about 1600 airstrike kills and 1700 firebase kills. I have only started really going for hurtgun kills recently; they're not really hard to get against morons. Most of the time when I'm playing terrible people I lock onto them with the hurtgun and wither them down form full health to dead while dodging and exclaiming to anyone who will hear it how bad the people we're against are. However, even if you don't do that there are plenty of ways hurtgun can be effective.

Juice (biggie)
People that the firebase is shooting at too
People that teammates are shooting at (that you're not healing)
People you randomly bump into almost dead

I usually only switch to the shotgun if I absolutely have to kill someone by myself, I'm saving a teammate, or I'm countering a juicer.

It's funny how many bad assaults you can kill with the hurt gun. If they miss with their charge, or try to retreat with it but don't make it out of range, a lot of them just can't finish a kill. I don't know why more of them don't just use a bomb.....

i must say this build is one of the best for shotgun
rate/armor/speed

upgrade passive to 3 and get a couple of speed pickups
Finally got keep your ammo cool now

just need sky master

Skill/armor/rate is the best way to go or skill/rate/armor

Why run a bronze speed endorsement if you're relying on picking up speed boosts?

Also, out of curiosity, how many total kills do you have?

I've been trying to get the Supports tags for so long. I'm suprised that you got The Draw before Keep Your Ammo Cool. My airstrikes, hurtguns and firebase kills are all around 950, whereas my shotgun kills are at 3500.

Look at cymode he is still on destiny as support.
Edit: Sorry it was with the hurt gun to.

well, Des is bad anyway