Team Balancing Issues?

I've noticed that when I play Crossfire, the higher leveled players are put in one team, while everybody else is put on the other team. Most of the time, the higher leveled team wins (occasionally destroys). What's going on? Are all the higher-levels partying up or is the matchmaking system doing this? If it is the matchmaking system, can somebody please fix this? I prefer games where the odds are even, not games that end in only 5 minutes.

First off, your forum name makes me giggle. Hard.

Secondly, odds are that you're getting sucked into lobbies with parties. Sucks. :/ Otherwise, it seems to be fairly random.

Best thing you can do is start discussing on hurr and make some friends!

Sadly this is most likely the case. Alot of times you'll find 99s partied up togeather. It may sound noobish and cowardly, but your best bet is to just leave and find another match. The 99s have a strategy and have been playing this game for a long time togeather. They will most likely be in your base within the first minute spawn camping you. It sucks big time, but theres always another game going on with all randoms and are usually more fun.

eventually everyone is going to have the same skill level, to be able to break a spawncamp and deliver one equally as good. it isnt like this is the end of the world. once everyone starts learning to play, they will be able to hold off an enemy even with a team of randoms for at least 5 minutes. i can usually keep the moneyball from being breached for 5 minutes guranteed.

the more the randoms learn how to play, the more they will stop being "random" anymore. and it doesnt even require overabuse of the ump45. so at least they will have fun choosing whatever they can play in this game, compared to another game where theres 500 setups but only one works.

I don't know, the game really seem to like throwing high level players together. Plenty of times I've been in a party of 3-4 and the other 2-3 people they put on our team are the other highest levels in the lobby. Or I'll be playing solo, get into a lobby that has a party of 99's in it, and they'll throw me on the same team. I would love to see some sort of balancing implemented, because right now it's pretty ridiculous sometimes.

Yeah, I was gonna say sometimes it's not even a premade team. It just pushes similar player levels together. It's really weird to me.

I don't believe this is true in the least. The best at anything(gaming/sports/drinking/riddles/cleaning/the martial arts/ANYTHING) is always a minority, with the overwhelming majority of people being pretty bad at any given thing. In my brief lifetime I've noticed that a crazy majority of people suck at...pretty much everything(before any trolls come along no I'm not claiming to be better at ANYTHING). Driving and gaming are two things I can most easily explain.

When it comes to driving, people fall into habits. Most of which are terrible and dangerous. Whether it be texting, watching TV(I've seen far more people with a TV(no not a common GPS screen) in their vehicle's dashboard than should exist!), or even just the painfully common fact that NO ONE uses turn signals. People suck at driving and the overwhelming majority of them never get any better at it.

Gaming is an interesting case in that there's nothing to gain or lose from how good one is at it(except for egomaniacs or those rare few that go into actual, paid pro gaming). What motivation is there to become any better? I played TF2 for two years(up until the patch the completely broke it) and in that time, the skill divide did not change at all. From release up until this very day there are still snipers and spies that drag their team down with them, tryhards playing demoman just because winning against those knuckle-dragging incompetents is stroking their epeens, and a very small number of players that don't actually suck.


I see absolutely no reason to believe MNC will fare any differently than any other game. The best and the worst players will get bored of it, the skill divide will remain constant. Just my two cents.

This, hands down this. It happens alot. More often than not and even when there are no parties, you'll see almost all the 99's get lumped together or at least 3-4 of them and the other team is screwed from the get-go. Balanced or semi-balanced teams is a real rarity. If I could I'd record screenshots for a whole day of the team splits, because its absolutely ridiculous.

I agree with pohtahtoez, I've noticed that a lot of times the teams get set up evenly, and then shuffled up again to be MORE unfair.

Not really sure what's going on here.

Couldn't agree more. When this happens I just leave... because two minutes matches are not fun at all

Just the other night I was in a room that was full of 90's+ and there happen to be two 20's in the room. Each team just a 20. Earlier in that room though there were two 0's, sadly they were placed on the same team. I think it's just random. For all we know the game could be making teams based off of our Trueskill levels.

I don't think it's even possible to solve the teamstacking issue, so I think while we discuss this we should ignore that elephant in the room.

What sort of stat would be best for sorting teams? Bot kill / death ratio? Kill / death ratio? Win percentage? Lifetime earnings? So many variables...

Maybe team A could have...
#1 botkiller in lobby
#2 slayer in lobby

and team B could have...
#1 slayer in lobby
#2 botkiller in lobby

I'm at a loss with how the others could be split up, and I'm not even certain my above suggestion is a good idea!

It seems like they sort by lifetime earnings right now. I'd go with average money earned each game. But I don't know what would solve it. Even a better randomizing would help.

I'm a 99.

I'm alone.

More 99's join at different times.

Team split.

All 99's on same team.

Do teams change after this game?

No.



That happens fairly often. I don't blame anybody on the other team for leaving at that point. It's stupidly funny.