Slammers are the Most Powerful Naval Unit

The Slammer has a total underwater DPS of 487.5 (400 from primary gun and 87.5 from torpedoes) since it's primary gun and torpedoes fire underwater. The Orca can only fire torpedoes back at the Slammer, giving it a total underwater DPS of 62.5.

On that note, the Orca is the only unit aside from the Commander capable of firing Torpedoes.

This means the Slammer is the most powerful underwater unit by far.

The Slammer should not be able to fire its projectile cannon underwater. It should only fire torpedoes. And the torpedoes should be given a DPS reduction or the Orca should get a torpedo DPS increase. Also, the Leviathan or Stingray should get torpedoes as well, otherwise the Orca is the only naval unit capable of firing at the Slammer.

Or, we should get a torpedo boat. We should probably get one of these anyways.

This could be a bug as it couldn't do it when the slammers were first given it's torpedo weapon.

It has to do with water height AFAIK. If the slammer is only partially submerged it can use both weapons.

/agree. Navy is probably still far from being balanced well. Its mostly useless on 90% of planets with water.

How about giving us some actual amphibious units instead of strapping a torpedo on an otherwise skirmisher unit which suddenly tooks totally out of role?

I just tried this yesterday, and holy crap indeed.

It took down tier 2 ships in just a few hits, and decimated structures with ease.

The only counter against them is air units.

I'd much prefer weak hover tanks over a super powered submarine bot any day.

I love how brian loves every post here. Except for clopse. Poor clopse.

But anyway, Slammers definitely need a water-nerf. Namely the main gun not being able to magically fire underwater.

Oops. Missed his.

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But then again, why do slammers need torpedoes at all? Why can't they just be defenceless underwater. It's a good enough strength that they can run underwater already.

If T1 bots were balanced properly bots might actually be the best type of units in the game considering the power of the Slammer.

Brian REALLY IS liking all the posts here.

Vanilla Naval really isn't scaled that well.

Especially seeing as the bar for killing land unit's is so low that naval didn't actually have to try that hard to begin with.

I tried this using 100 Slammers, and what was most ridiculous was that if you have an advanced satellite or radar, the range of the Slammer is humongous.

It makes no sense for a bot to have a torpedo with 3 times the range of Orcas.

As of PTE 70243, Dox are now amphibious as well. Interesting.

Yup ships look like they are made of paper against slammers.

*Sigh* Ubers balance decisions are just getting worse, and worse...

Expect for finally nerfing the vanguard.

Naval definitely needs some balance. However, why would you even consider comparing a t1 unit to a t2 unit like this? Of course t2 is stronger.

I don't think this is intentional.

This is probably a bug having to do with water depth. Or possibly an oversight/accident.

Slammers are overpowered, yes, underwater.

However, until Slammers can walk underlava, I do not find them uberpowered.

Actually, I think now, that would be the Dox.

It's confirmed. They shoot from underwater!