I want to use this thread to gauge interest in the setting up of large team games (which I will arbitrarily define as 15+ players, but ideally at least 20). These are really the only games that interest me and I am only doing 4v4 Clan Wars and 3v3 LoC and so on because no one is currently running large team games between organized opponents on a regular or even a semi-regular basis (if ever). The problem is that really only the clans, and particularly the bigger ones, can set up these kinds of games. You need PA Stats to see the custom servers, and randoms don't tend to have PA Stats, so those large lobbies fill excruciatingly slowly. Besides, even if you could get 10 randoms into a shared team, they are laughable as an opponent. At least 2 or 3 of them will immediately drop out when they realize what they've gotten themselves into, while the rest will start squabbling between themselves on which units are whose, who is crashing the economy, and who is trolling the others by deleting people's units. At most you'll get a couple of solid opponents per 5 or 10 players, but they will be completely helpless against 10 clan members, even if the latter are merely beginners or intermediates. So these games are unplayable with randoms. Now I know that I have criticized the large clans quite harshly on occasion, but this is one case in which their size helps, and it's the primary reason I want to get my own clan as large as possible. It is too bad I have created a bad image of myself precisely with the people whose help I need the most in order to play the kinds of games I want to play, so I am hoping that they will be able to see past whatever issues they have with me, and help me out into setting up these games with them, simply because they are so enjoyable. I haven't figured out the details of what I want to pursue yet, but I will bump this thread when I have concrete proposals. In the meantime, I am just putting this out there in the hopes that someone will want to take over and organize this. How about an Exodus 8v8 or 10v10 mini-tournament like LoC? How about setting aside one day a month for large team games? I suck at organizing events, and don't enjoy doing it (just as I don't enjoy throwing parties, but rather crashing them lol), but I absolutely love entering them and participating in them, so maybe someone more enterprising and social can take this work off my hands and set up everything for us? If so, great. If not, I will talk things over with my clan members to see what is the biggest size team that we can comfortably field in the near future (i.e. whether 8-player, or 9 or 10 or whatever), and then I'll bump this thread with a concrete proposal to see which clan(s) will take us up on it. Any ideas or offers, let me know in this thread.