Remove juice.

when the game was released, seeing someone in juice was a rarity at best. maybe 1 person per game would get juice and kill a few players and maybe a turret.

now this game is nothing more then
Camp
Juice
Rinse& repeat

its ridiculous now either make it bonus health and speed only, or remove it all together.

yea probably said before
yea uber won't do it because they won't.

Juice is fine. Without it, I'd love to see you try to break a turrent farm.

mmm tacos.

with it, lets see a 500 turret last longer than 50 seconds. a juiced assassin is in your base at least once every 50 seconds. just make it slightly weaker?

Juice is fine. Learn to counter it or stop building turrets.

its fine how it is , but i think the way its purchased is F'ed. I would like to recommend replacing the juice vendors location to be moved to each spawnroom and perhaps an increased price for it.

It's funny, because when I build turrents, they usually last for the entire match. It's extremely rare that I will let a juiced Assassin so much as touch them. And also,

Juice seems fine to me, other than the laser blazer nerf allowing for too much tank/taunt abuse.

Turret*****

I would prefer it if Juice Machines charged the same as it does now for the first purchase and then every additional time the pro buys juice per game he is charged an additional 50% more with every new purchase, this escalating price would make juice purchase more strategic rather than opportunistic.

I think that the Juice power level is fine as it is, i would suggest that if your going to build turrets you wait until your base is under pressure then try to build three or four turrets at once. planting solitary turrets as soon as you can afford them makes a very tempting target for juicers.

Whether any other Assassin will agree with me or not, Assassins gain juice from killing bots too quickly... at one point.. i gained juice 15 times in one match... NOT BUYING ANY

See there's this little technique in the game, I'm not sure if you've heard of it but it's something called "Grappling". Quite easy to do, really. It's either your red skill or your secondary fire for some classes. Just use that on a Juiced Pro and with any luck, you should be able to get something called a "Ring-Out" where you knock someone out of the arena. Or if not, it should buy you and your team-mates enough time to keep the Juiced Pro away from you.

there is a diffrence between juice killing 1 turret, and juice killing you entire team plus all your turrets, a lvl 3 missile turret should be a team effort to kill, not a hurp derp i juice solo'd your base.


but hey this game is dieing anyways. whats the point in trying to save it, it would be better if it was about escorting bots and having them tank as you kill the other bots/turrets/players instead of camp, get juice, rush over juice, become invincable, kill base

oh, and there is no counter other then to be a faggot yourself

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JplROTlNeKo

You look silly.

What are you doing Hudson? usrevenge clearly said that there is no counter to Juice, other than being a homosexual, therefore your video is a fake (or you like penis).

Tacos are awesome, srsly.

Anyway, whenever I juice I get fucked by a level 3 charge, an ice trap, any grapple, minigun, shotgun, 3.3 ROCKET TURRETS, firebases, slam, level 3 shaveices, bouncers, jackbots, and smart people.

Buff juice.

We definately gain it quickly but when we rape bots we are an easy target with our
paper armour so I think it's a fair trade. The only thing I would do to juice would be
to make it last a few seconds less once activated. It's just too easy to demolish an
unguarded base. Even the guarded ones gets you a couple of kills or turreNts.

Nothing wrong with Juice .. the Timers fixed the huge problem of having 6 people on the opposing team all juicing at you at the same time over and over. This OP obviously hasn't been playing crossfire since the game came out because Juice used to be a real problem. Now its perfectly in the mechanics like it should be.. only people that haven't played enough to figure out the game in its entirety will complain (every game has a learning curve.. thats not an insult). It's not like there are waves and waves of juicers immediately within the first minute of the game (except maybe an assassin), I dont see it to be anywhere nearly as a turn off or annoying as it once was...not even close. Its similar to quad damage or something else in other 'imaginary' FPS's that make you nearly unstoppable for a second (until you learn otherwise), someone is always going to complain but tough noodles.. its a major part of the game and alot of fun. Oh and btw, those Protags for juicing exist for a reason! Go for em!

Tacos are yummy.