Racquemis 4 - 0 Raw Messiah

After banning Verden (Under alias) for allegedly hacking after a played moaned about being killed by him and having "an insane score" (27-4, gg). Only to unban him a minute later after verifying who he was through a PM sent on these forums. His only justification to banning Verden was that he didn't have a steam id checker at hand to verify who he was. That is clearly in no way Verdens fault, yet he took a ban for it. After I questioned this fact me Vlane and Myst all get perm banned.

TL;DR Racq kills RWM in 1 unjustified banning session.

Who's this Racquemis?

Little bit more light:

verden, Myst, Robinson and me played on his rac's server. verden and me played under different names.
This guy, Max, moaned about verden aimbotting and got rac who observed. After some time he left just to come back a few minutes later.

He banned verden, justifying it with "as soon as I leave his score gets better" (not the exact quote). We explained it by telling him that it's verden and he said he couldn't check because he doesn't have an ID converter (bad stuff right there by the way). After verden sent him a message in the forum he got unbanned but he didn't actually gave him an excuse for baning him for no reason.

After going back and forth with him and telling him that's not how you should do that he kicked me. Joined again and got kicked repeatedly just to see if we could actually have a decent discussion so he sees the problem (we couldn't).
I was being less of a **** then usual by the way (i.e. I didn't insult him or anything).

Long story short: We all got banned.

Racquemis PM responde:

Why would you pressume we're adults? We play videogames.

I see your point. Unless my skillz are at a constant godlike level, it couldn't be anything else than hacking. I do, however, like the fact that seeing as I can't be bothered to comment on hackusations, you see this as a result to use your admin powahs! It's your server, you decide, but you've got more brains than that, right?

Kiddo, if I wanted to rob something. It would be the bank, it sure as hell wouldn't be a gallon of milk at the local supermarket.

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ur mum.

LOL seriously, trying to 'hurt' me by posting these things about this


someone contacted me on friendlist that there was "cheater talk" (the yes no accusation game)
i want my servers clean of such talk so i act.
The alledged verden never spoke ingame and was indeed racking up kills. it is late and i wanted to go to bed. so to end it quickly i just decided to temporaly remove the alledged verden from the server. i used adminkickban for it, since the rejoin delay on the kick function doesnt work. i removed him after several minutes.
Correct action or not? it was quick!

Next
robinson, myst and "******* Faggot" started calling me names and didnt show me any respect during the next couple of matches while i already explained why i did what i did
I have all the right to kick those players.

Yes i kicked "******* Faggot several times in a row. after i told him to just leave this matter alone and play and he was still showing no respect.

And no i have not banned you guys, just kicked for showing no respect
Great way of twisting the truth and leavinng things out to let it look better to you

applause for that.
really mature people, really mature.

Seriously why is it neccesary to keep going on and on by such a small thing which got correction? only to hurt my name? even if it is. that doesn't matter. i' ll still be here developing webtools.

It's funny, 'cause your version doesn't seem biased at all.

:lol: flame wars :lol:

I cannot join that server anymore, so yes, I was banned.

I would like to know at what point any of us were calling you names, we said you were being a bad admin, an opinion on your handling of the situation, nothing derogatory or offensive was said.

A player was being accused of hacking, you wanted to sort it out, understandable. You say that your main concern at that time was the trash talking going along with it. One person was trash talking about 'hacking' and it certainly wasn't the person you banned.

Not correct. In any way.

Myst never, at any point, called you anything. Same goes for me. verden did.

Apparently you don't know how respect works. I do not respect you for anything just because you are a human being. You have to earn that. Thanks to your actions you didn't. You made a poor decision by baning verden without having any proof or even caring.
The whole "it was late" argument is bad because you continued to play the game.

"Network ID banned"
That's what I got when I tried to join after the Grenade III game.

This annoys me.
You were the one not acting mature and not being able to have a discussion. You justified everything with "my stuff, leave".

I would just like to say the only sentence I typed to you was:

"Can I get one too? Feel left out"

I did hunt you with pancake cakes on Steel Peel though.

Actually no, that's not what I'm trying to do, my point is pretty simple. As it may be beyond you, we also enjoy playing on pub servers when we can't gather enough people to play privately. And it would be quite neat if we were "allowed" to play. Call it arrogant and bullshit, I don't care, but as I well explained you, it wouldn't take more than a minute to check my steam profile, or at least show a bit of trust. A proper hackusation might be pretty well defined, but when a kid simply screams: "THAT NAB IS HAXX0R!" It just seems silly for an admin of your status to react the way you do. Especially with the majority of people on my side. I enjoy playing on your servers, sadly I think you're a **** now. And that will most likely not change.

It was not one player. several people in the server i had on steam contacted me to look into it!. that raises suspicious quite alot.and i still suspect him at this time.

fine call me ****. i admit i can be one especially if people can't talk normally to me. your group was constantly demeaning to me during the entire ordeal. and don't deny it because you guys were. if you would have just showed some respect i probably would have handled things otherwise.

you have shown you are really are. demeaning and without respect. even if made a mistake, you have got no right to treat me that way. You could just let go and have verden contact me. no big deal i would have sorting things out myself and verden could be playing again within several minutes. but no others in the group felt they needed to be demeaning and unrespectful towards me. I don't have to put up with that.

personally i have enough with you guys. but since i've had regular conversations with your founder velijah in the past and respect him i won't still ban you from my servers. You were really demeaning towards me. if it was anyone else i would have taken action.

It was totally uncalled for to treat me that way.

So your first name is "Richard"?

We did this. He contacted you and there was no excuse at all for the ban.

Same goes for you baning verden.

racquemis join Mumble and say "reliability".

instead of waiting for the response i send to verden you guys called me names instead :lol: pretty lame :lol:

totally uncalled for:
thats your opinion. for me at the time there was an excuse. may or may not have been the right decision . WE GET IT. GET OVER IT. MOVE ON.

seriously this topic really doesn't deserve my attention anymore.

"reliability". Say it. Do it NAOW!

You have now proven my point
your being demeaning again :lol: :lol: :lol:
So immature.

Seriously moderators close this topic. this just turns into a meaningless debate :lol:
Topic Conclusion: Both sides may or may not have done bad things. bad things restored. hate remains. Case closed.

I don't hate you, I hate what you did and the way you did it.

noted. and you know how i feel about you guys. lets move on already :lol: .
whats the point in repeating ourselfs :lol:.

As a king of Console forum drama, but only a fledgling neophyte in terms of PC forum drama, I figured I'd post here to back up everything that was stated in the original post.

PS: It is AMAZING relearning this game on the PC. Fun games and humbling matches from all the RAW guys/friends.

Add me? I'm new to steam in general, and you all seemed like decent guys from the few games I played there (and it's obvious who I need to play against to get better on PC).

What servers do you frequent? You can respond to me in a private message, since I am locking this topic.