I did not state that it should not happen; I only stated that it results in pessimism when it does happen, and that it will add fuel to the fire for the side that already believes that the community does not have any say in the current state of PA, no matter who says that. __________ Entirely other argument, since Quitch is basically trying to argue that a non-substantial amount of people actually care about this: (I posted this in a Discord server earlier, so Stuart98 has taken part of this argument for use in a previous post, and I have also taken the above sentence's argument from Stuart98) Planetary Annihilation's community is a bit like a small town near a popular destination for visitors. A lot of people will come through and check things out for a few days, but their stays are usually quite short. Only a few players actually stay in the community for a long time. For this "core" sustained community, there are so few of us that we all know each other, or we know someone in common. When someone is suddenly forced to leave the community, this may make those who knew them wonder why it happened. When this happens to four individuals in quick succession, it may make others wonder how this can be prevented in the future. While the sustained community is only a minority of the players, it is the part of the community that maintains and creates a majority of the content and infrastructure that is shared between players. A mod or map created by a member of the sustained community is more likely to be circulated through the broader community than a mod or map created only by a player who is simply passing through with their friends. Furthermore, the sustained community is also integral to maintaining knowledge of the game and organizing events/ hosting games that newer players may find themselves drawn to. (Note that I am not arguing that the non-persistent playerbase does not contribute contents like maps to the community; I am simply arguing that maps and other content created by non-persistent players are highly unlikely to ever enter circulation beyond their immediate friend-group). Many of the individuals associated with PA Inc. were themselves members of this sustained community, and helped maintain crucial infrastructure for the continuous survival of the game, and it is sad to see that they may have already forgotten this, or perhaps come to believe that they are the only members of the sustained community that are productive to the continued development and maintenance of infrastructure and content for this game. As of the time this was posted, 21 individuals (mostly from the sustained community) have publicly indicated support for Nimzo's suggestions. While 21 is small when compared to the total number of unique players who play PA every month, it is significant in terms of the size of the actual sustained community. Additionally, discontent in the sustained community is more likely to spread towards the non-sustained community than vice-versa. I am not saying that the community has a unanimous opinion, but I am saying that there is a very substantial opinion within a very significant portion of the community.