Too many games, someone kills all the commanders by hitting 'c' then delete. This is often the work of a troll. Please make killing my commander only possible with my approval. It is really annoying to wait 15 minutes for 8 players only to have it end this way 5 minutes into the game. Thank you.
I highly recommend you don't play the Army game mode with people you don't know – problem solved. If you want to play team games, play Alliance or join a clan. If trolls can't kill your commander, they'll troll you other ways, like destroying your buildings or by taking all of your units and moving them in the wrong direction or canceling your build queues. Trolls will always have a way to troll. Removing this one way won't keep trolls from trolling, it'll just remove a useful game feature.
I think it's a fair point. In other games one person cannot make the surrender decision for the team.
Yes, but as Brian said, if it were changed, trolls would just do what GOOD trolls already do now. I entered a game right? I am not sure if this guy was troll or genious. But, he perimeter builds right around his spawn commander mex, then pgens, then t2 turret, then walls, like it was some sort of custom made player template. Then it gets crazier, he field builds energy storage, metal storage, flak, tanking our economy by thousands of metal while he takes everyones fabbers to assist his. I had to struggle micro click my fabbers to keep him from retasking them to his, and I was trying to build exclusively to pay for the economy debt. I say genious because late game as many storage he did build he flash-built some nukes and carpet bombed the enemy with 6-7 nukes build in 2 waves pretty much a minute apart. I am not sure if that is in the realm of sanity, but God it was annoying. Oh, and I think he built area command orbital radar. Like that's useful. But it did work. They went orbital early and I swear we couldn't build orbital in 5 minutes of trying to build because of economy tank, but we managed to compete on-planet and clear our own planet, and then we thought we were screwed orbitally until he fired 2 salvos of orbital nukes to clean the surface of one planet after another. I was so suprised we won with how things were going, a thousand metal deficit and a troll area-building orbital radar.
But one wastes your time up until the game start. The other literally tanks you throughout the game leading you to an unavoidable defeat that may partially look to the enemy like "you were just scrubby" and wasting more of your time in the process.] Oh, you know what WOULD be nice though? If there was some sort of visual queue when something is set to self destruct, and if it were cancelable within that time. But I always thought we would eventually get that. Technically, a player mod can be added that delays the actual pressing of the "delete" key and when you press delete it instead brings a prompt up you must confirm to, or where you can press delete again and it never sends the delete command in the first place.
People troll all the time in LoL. Guess what? We get on with it anyway. We carry the goddamn team regardless. If they could surrender for me at 20 minutes that would suck balls. Maybe they troll hard enough that I quit, but then it's my decision, not theirs.
But the fun part of PA is to work with different people on beating the enemy, seeing what they are good at and delegating to each-other where to focus attention and resources. And just stating "Just play with people you know" LOSES a major social aspect in any game (although some games like mobas are less effected as they are built around pre-aranged teams) Uber wants HUGE games with like 20v20, i doubt there will be very many 'pre-arranged 20 man teams' and you will need to work with people you dont know. To deal with trolls, 1. only blow a commander by consent of teammates, i agree and 2. have a 2/3 vote to kick a teammate if that person is actively ruining your efforts to destroy the common foe. Now look, i know there are those that want to play with people they know, thats fine, but imposing that on everyone else and expecting them to agree with you, universe doesnt run around you. Heres the way we can go about it. Include counter-measures to team-killing, it should not affect pre-arranged teams (as that should not be a problem anyways) so that both parties can be happy with the outcome. Not everyone has pre-arranged teams, all my friends dont want to play PA because it is unfinished and they want a final product, so I end up playing with randoms, which im fine with as we are all working to do one thing, horribly murder the enemy, and i have made friends there! just add to the social aspect by denying trolls, not denying people the ability to play team-games TLDR Telling others to just play pre-arranged is a **** move, just add counter-measures to trolls and everyone will (hopefully) be happy
First off, make friends online. You say you've done so in real life, I have faith in you on this one, you can meet people on a game and add them to a social part of your life... Second off, I wouldn't mind being able to visually see what is being deleted in team games (as well as single games) and cancel it, as well as select a player in the game names dropdown menu and votekick them (each player selects kick, and if enough people toggles to kick it does so). Right now, RTS games are usually for the intellegent'er folk, I have had commanders deleted once beginning game like ever, after having played 20 successful games with randoms, and I have deleted commanders myself once because of a pretty tough loss and saving all of us time.
...? Asumption. Now follow me on this one. What kind of person plays paintball, and what kind of person plays chess? Now, I play both. But. I am not being stereotypical, just statistical. There are a wide variety of people who play both. Chess is usually highly smart people, sometimes arrogant, sometimes just plain bored, sometimes people that think small things over thoroughly. Paintball, 75% of my jock teenage or older redneck friends discuss paintball, along with some other people I met, but there is a definite correlation that more of them are the prior, and a few oddballs make up the latter (like me). Then again, I play chess better than the average person and competitive enough against a competitive club player, but I am pretty much on the bottom of the chess club itself. Kind of like PA and the Realm, better than randoms, competitive against stable players, still fairly low on the bracket anyway. Either way, I play paintball in military class back in high school, which it was "Paintball Orienteering". Like, remember the airplane graveyard level on Modern Warfare 2? Think of that, made of common paintball obstacles (tirestacks and milk crates and wooden pallets). Then, the first part has tons of white cloths all over the obstacles pretty close together, and the instructions specify exactly which ones you get, and your navigator has to calculate on a map and use instructions to get the right obstacles and markers on the obstacles, while 4 armed escorts suppress fire from the outside of the strip of obstacles, and you are graded on correct markers recovered and how many make it across the finish line (casualties can be carried for full credit). So, from what I have experienced, call of duty players troll just because their friends aren't online, because they are bored that day, because they have NO consideration for their common man, and because its more of a game to teamhamper than it is to just play against an enemy. PA players actually focus on their strategy and build, and a person would be hard pressed to invest money to get in to begin with, in order to troll on a game that isn't their usual taste of fps. I bet you run into more racing games where players drive backwards to collide with other players (god that is fun, but I never had the indecency to do it in a serious online match), than you have trolls in PA. Yes, there are some. That is why stereotypes or statistics aren't 100% accurate when dealing with the variety of people in the world. But to be stereotypical for just one moment, my assumption is, more trolls like games where you shoot stupid guns at other stupid soldier looking characters and don't do much thinking, than they do games where you build a base and manage a resource economy to mass produce an army, which you then have to make tactically proportionate to fit a role against what your enemy is doing.
chess, checkers, go, risk, final fantasy, and c&c 95? If so, you fall in the borderline and wildcard catergory, a shooter fan who probably played a strategy shooter like Planetside2 with complicated control and collection numbers, and happen to stumble in on PA.
c&c 95 was my first PC game, but I only got really good at strategy games in the past 5 years or so, and have only gained the diplomatic wit and underhand tactics in the past 2. Judging my current progress, by 30 I should become emperor of earth. Fingers crossed.
Srsly, it is like every PA match ever. "Sometime, somewhere, someone will attack you, possibly, probably, could be happening right now", to which I reply "fingers crossed" as I have turrets, walls, combat fabbers, infernos, and landmines at the whole perimeter. Try to turret run me. Then they pelter me, then I proxy backdoor pelter them, then they sheller me, then I gil-e them, then they build nukes, and I build antinukes, and they build Halleys, and I... Well actually I usually lose then... I made myself depressed...
