Might as well rename the assassin class Saboteur...

because that seems to be what most people think they should be doing >_> seriously people the class is called the "ASSASSIN" yet alot of people are saying their main focus should be to push lanes and take out turrets, and leave the killing to the classes that are good at it :roll:
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/assassin
Definition of Assassin-a person who commits murder; especially : one who murders a politically important person either for hire or from fanatical motives

Definition of SABOTEUR

: one that practices sabotage

Definition of SABOTAGE

1
: destruction of an employer's property (as tools or materials) or the hindering of manufacturing by discontented workers
2
: destructive or obstructive action carried on by a civilian or enemy agent to hinder a nation's war effort
3
a : an act or process tending to hamper or hurt
b : deliberate subversion

now, don't get me wrong, when i play i DO push the lanes and take out turrets, but i also do my damned best to kill enemy pros as well because i'd rather them be looking at the spawn screen, and not juicing, using the annihilator/ejectors, killing my teams bots, killing my team mates, killing ME or locking our base down.

Yep I pretty much agree. Assassins do seem much better suited to sabotaging the enemy rather than outright killing them.

And Saboteur does sound alot cooler...

i second that

it sounds awesome, and it fits the role better... i say change it

To say that assassin should be just for clearing lanes and killing bots while avoiding pros, is basically saying they should be playing blitz.

Every class has been equipped with means of killing the other class.

The assassin already had the most disadvantages, and post update even more.

When I play as an assassin, I clear lanes but when met with opposition, if feels great when I outsmart the enemy and kill them with skill. Online competitive multi-player is the reason xbox live is successful.

For me to be limited to only being good at clearing bots and unable to kill pros, Not because of lack of skill, but because its already been decided based on class, ruins the game for that class.

And also takes away the draw of online play for that class IMO.

And btw, the assassin name should belong to the sniper.

A sniper is a long range kill specialist. But the sniper in this game is just as deadly up close and much deadlier then the assassin up close.

I like it, perhaps it would draw a lot of these nubs away from her. Pretty much how I play her, and the good assassins I see. Plus Running a Duo of push is insane...Although Dash/Grab and Shuriken spam is pretty good.

wrong.

his grapple is good sure, but hes slow and has no health.
i can honestly say as tank i have been grappled by sniper no more than 4 times
probably less.
same with other classes too.

assassin?
208248961249 times
and as classes other than tank i've actually died yes

but luckily the tank is.... well, A TANK.
and should not die in a single grapple from assassin

Alright... I think the original poster was being sarcastic. I don't think he really wanted to change the name of the Assassin; he was making a point about how weak they've become, as well as the obscured view of their role.

freeze trap + grapple = sup ringout/kill

*CLAPCLAPCLAP*
i didn't think people would think i was serious about changing the name >_<

If you're a tank and you're getting killed by assassins, you need practice. lol

And NO its I'm not wrong.

I'm thinking you don't often play as an assassin, and for most certainly not against any good snipers.

If a tank is caught in a snipers trap, its best that the sniper just headshots the tank. The reason is because the tanks main weapon is the jet gun and thats still dangerous up close, regardless of being trapped.

When an assassin approaches a sniper and is frozen in a level 3 trap, they can not smoke bomb, dash nor grapple. The sniper has little to no resistance stopping him from either killing with or ringing out the assassin with his grapple.

In close quarters, a sniper can place 3 traps, completely surrounding himself. With that there is no chance in an assassin grappling him.
And just for the sake of conversation, lets say that the sniper chose not to use his traps.

If the sniper and the assassin face off and the assassin lands the grapple. The sniper can survive and simply grapple the assassin back.

I don't know if you knew this but the snipers frontal grapple is deadlier then the assassins.

Over all, the sniper has counters to the assassins abilities yet the assassin doesn't have a counter to the snipers traps. Absolutely no way for them to disable them. Thats simply an non debatable advantage in close quarters to the sniper.

If you're a sniper and your getting destroyed constantly by an assassin, you're not a good sniper.

Period

And I wont even bring up long range.

yet he still usually dies from an assault charge+grapple, which is even easier to land than the assassin grapples..

Or... delete the class totally.

actually a saboteur class would be pretty cool...able to hack bots and turrets to do there biding, make them into time bombs, plant explosives and etc.

That sounds more like a Support/Assault Hybrid now.

Maybe if they gave her the ability to cloak after initiating a grapple? This way she has to reveal herself to get the kill, but without simply becoming fodder for bots, turrets, and firebases.

i think a possible thing that could be added to sins is the ability to dash over traps similar to cod's sitrep or something like that.

That's pretty much what it is right now. That's what they plan on taking away. Although firebases seem to see me for longer when I cloak to get away.

I have nothing more to say other than: No matter what class you play your primary job should be killing bots and clearing lanes. Except if you're support, in which case you should be healing etc. your own bots so that they have a better chance of doing said job themselves.

The thing that's been pointed out so often is that, while the assassin does a great job of pushing her bots through enemy bots, a single enemy pro is pretty dangerous to her. The assassin's secondary function was to remove the threat ahead of her team so that their advance could be that much easier, but now she simply won't be able to do that as effectively (and in the face of a single turret she can't do it at all).