Mapstart lockup and assassin grapple detection

After loading map and before class screen comes up, if you press tab, scoreboard will stay locked and there's nothing you can do. If you try to quit or disconnect, game will crash.

Assassin face grapple seems to end up as back grapple more often than not. Could it be an increase in the back grapple angle?

I had the bug happen to me earlier. I fixed it by pressing 1 then enter. It made me spawn as an Assault. Then just mashed my scoreboard button a few times and it fixed. Still pretty annoying though.

I got this too

Not sure what I did, but it eventually just spawned me as assault

Same thing has happened to me twice now. I obsessively compulsively check to see what poor class selections my team is making and it is destroying me now!!!

Phew, I knew I wasn't dreaming this up.

I get the same thing with assassins occasionally. I've had a case where my back was literally against a wall, assassin rushes up to me, grapple, somehow she flips behind me for a back grapple right before the animation. It's one of the only rage inducing things I've experienced in MNC.

I can confirm the scoreboard issue.

Pulling up the scoreboard before you pick your class causes you to be unable to make it go away and unable to pick a class. I had to alt+tab and kill mnc.exe both times.

I didn't want to say anything until I had played more, but now I definitely agree that something is weird.

I've played a good amount as assassin and other classes. From both perspectives, assassins do seem to be getting more unexpected back grapples than before. Somewhere in the last couple of updates, something changed.

^ Maybe this had some unintended consequences for the assassin's grapple, and it should be applied only to the tank and gunner?

"more" unexpected backgrapples is an understatement, you also seem to be able to grapple sins midair as heavy unit quite often nowadays.

Also assassins can sometimes grapple you midair.


In short, grapple mechanics are a bit fubar.

Thank god someone else agrees with me.

I think something went horribly wrong within the last patch or so. I've noticed a lot of buggy-ish grapples.

Heh, the other day I think I was playing assault.. I charged an assassin, and then she grappled me while being knocked back by the charge, which resulted in the grapple animation playing with both of us suspended in midair

these weird back grapples are still common

It seems like they happen when the assassin is right up against the target. As if the origin of the grapple is somewhere in space in front of the assassin, and when she's close enough it ends up being on the far side of the grapple target.

I propose that until this is fixed, we call it "The Reacharound"