Jump Jet Bunny Hopping + Southpaw exploit.

two issues I really want to cover here. both issues are kind of merged.

1) Jump Jet Bunny Hopping. There's an art to it. Done correctly, tanks and gunners CAN avoid being on the ground for the ENTIRE match, rendering grapples useless.
Solution: Fix it so after a jump using jump jets, you cannot "bounce" off the floor and repeat the jump jet usage. (Give Jump jets a one-second cooldown/charge period)

2) Southpaw Exploit. The problem with this can be easily identified by people who abuse the above issue. With a normal control scheme, you have a hard time (if even possible) aiming and shooting someone while bunny hopping. However, with Southpaw scheme, you can bunny hop AND actually aim and kill people WITH NO PROBLEM AT ALL.
Solution: Fix #1.

I'm sick and tired of seeing southpaw gunners/tanks hopping and PULVERIZING everyone using the two combined issues. It should be reasonable that by using jump jets, you can't aim, only shoot.

What class do you play regularly? Hitting them in mid-air shouldn't be a problem unless you play Assassin.
That being said I absolutely agree with you about the jumpjets needing some sort of short cooldown or detoriating effect.

I disagree. It takes skill and really isn't that cheap. If you can't hit a Gunner (or a Tank), flying or not, there's something wrong on your end. If you're an Assassin, be tactical and grapple him the second he lands. Grapples are pretty damn forgiving in this game; even if you don't time it right it'll probably get him.

This.

Also, it's a bit more likely that they're holding the controller "claw" style rather than using Southpaw.

you mean where the middle finger is dealing with the fire button, the finger after that rests on A button, and the thumb is for aiming (with normal setup)?

Correct.

Ow, that can't be good after a sustained period of time.

Regardless, something still should be done about the jump jets having zero cool-down. (besides who would be dumb enough to be under a flying Gunner with his Slam) I'm not even sure if Tank can slam or anything to do below him though.

Tank can release the jets and drop into a falling charge3
I do it all the time rofl

It is skillful and not many people can play claw

The one problem I have is like you said them being able to just tap the ground for a nanosecond and get full jets again

Makes life hell for an assassin
As if tanks were not hard enough to kill already

Yeah, it starts to cramp like hell. I learned to switch on the fly when shooting but it still isn't comfortable.

People need to know what Bunny Hopping really is.

Sounds like you miss Quake, K Rool.

no, dont ask uber to change the gunner any more. he's already had enough nerfs. don't be jealous because people can do something you can't.

I'm not even asking for a Gunner nerf. I'm asking for a fix to jump jet usage. I can bunny hop (who can't once they see how it works) with ease. Using the "claw" is new to me and I recently just started using it to see how effective it is.. and it is.

I wonder if ChaosFF7 is on those forums. That guy is the BEST at JJBH with his Gunner. Total pro. DeadEye comes close too, when he uses Gunner.

Yep.

Pay no mind to ANYTHING Rannek says. He's an admitted troll, he doesn't post without the intent on trolling.

*cue Rannek posting one or two non-trolling messages as a form of trolling*

:roll:

I'm going to learn how to claw because it gives you an incredible edge, but I wish there was simply a bumper jumper control style to level the playing field.

I'm going to learn how to claw because it gives you an incredible edge, but I wish there was simply a bumper jumper control style to level the playing field.

Having played "claw" gunner a little, I take my hat off to Deadeye and co who can do it so well. I am scoring higher and dying less than I did playing traditional style, but you need great battlefield awareness and dexterity to get the kind of scores those guys get.

I like walking on walls. I do it specifically to avoid assassins. Been doing it since day 1.

The counter for this isn't nerfing the jump jets. It's a good sniper. I've died plenty of times at the end of a skilled snipers crosshairs because while I'm up there in la la land, I'm exposing my dome. If you don't get me, you don't have a sniper.

A skilled assassin can smoke jump onto the same wall with me. That's happened to me too.

Just my two cents.