Juiced assault moneyball rushing

Discussion in 'Monday Night Combat 360 Feedback and Issues' started by Reltsirk, December 11, 2010.

  1. Reltsirk

    Reltsirk New Member

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    Lets discuss this. A juiced assault will pretty much always kill a pro right? Due to flight and already having a bomb out, he pretty much has an escape plan if things dont go his way too. I honestly think he does too much damage to the moneyball now.

    Pretty much any game your going to get juice rushed. By whatever thats a given. However, I was just in a game where I knew the assault was going go juice rush, I waited for him, He still got his juice off, and took 90% of the moneyballs health down with that single juice. This seems a bit much since A. He can kill you in the blink of an eye if you oppose him. B. He can fly already and outmanouver you [thus staying away from grapples, charges, staying out of ice traps, staying out of turrets line of fire, etc.] C. The snipers damage was nerfed.

    I pretty much try to take precautions to avoid the juice rush, buying the juice so they cant, camping the juice machine, etc. Unless you have the spawn on complete lockdown, its going to happen.

    Im not sure what changes should be made other than nerfed damage to the moneyball, but after playing a game where one single assault was the only thing to attack our moneyball, and it took down almost all of it, and alone, is a bit insane.
  2. F5in

    F5in New Member

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    Was it overtime? In overtime pretty much any class can take out a LOT of the moneyball health due to the bacon effect giving you gold crits, RoF, clip size, etc. Pretty sure the Assault can't do that normally, and it's not extremely easy to hit the MB with the grenade launcher (which does more damage than the AR) and stick it constantly if he's being harassed.
  3. Reltsirk

    Reltsirk New Member

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    thats the problem, it was the assault rifle, and we had the place locked down except for a single assault which I went back for. After he died the moneyball didnt take any more damage so I'm certain it was only him. The problem with it is pretty much every juiced pro has its pros and cons but the assault is kind of like the sniper in a sense. He doesnt need to get too much into the action to accomplish a lot at overtime. For the damage that did, and yes with the assault rifle, thats insane for someone to do alone.

    Assassins have no health but need to get close, as well as supports, so do tanks going for turrets unless they railgun the ball [which got balanced] Snipers can stay far away, [which got balanced], Gunners have to kind of make a choice, take out turrets with mortars or players with minigun, the fact that assaults can also avoid needing to be in the action as well as do that much damage is insane and only from one. Its not like he cant kill you in the blink of an eye if he wanted to either. You can get in the snipers way to stop him from hitting the moneyball, or grapple the assassin but any well placed assault and there goes 90% of it in 1 juice.
  4. F5in

    F5in New Member

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    Did you even read what I wrote? Anyone can do that in overtime.
  5. JackTrips

    JackTrips New Member

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    I think damage to the moneyball is very balanced since the DLC. With an assault, bomb on the moneyball does a lot of damage, but it's not spammable.

    It's amazing how much harder it is to win now just because the moneyball doesn't take as much damage. I like it.
  6. Reltsirk

    Reltsirk New Member

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    Far from the point. Any class can be easily dealt with juice except an assault the most you can do is counter juice and stop it before it starts. I doubt a sniper does that much to the moneyball in 1 juice let alone hes limited to certain areas [assuming there are turrets up at your base] Where the assault suffers no such penalty and basically gets a free ride to the moneyball. If its that easy to get there and stay safe, considering most of the playerbase is picking assaults, its just over.

    Games without 2 assaults are rare to me, let alone 2 juiced and coordinated assaults can basically solo it with no opposition or threats. As a tank player I really cant do much except try tell people whats going to happen. [over half the time theres no reply BUT]

    Yes bacon makes everyone better, yes its overtime, but its insanely easy to pull off due to avoiding all of your turrets in the process and shooting around the corners on the glass always protected by a bomb(s) if recharged.

    I wouldnt have half a problem if he wasnt possible to stop. Its an assault he pretty much just has to fly around for awhile and his juice is gone anyway if he chooses to shoot the moneyball, not to mention even if he wants to kill you, it takes less than 1 second and almost 4 shots or less. You cant grapple him. The other classes are somewhat reliable to stop.

    If his weakness is he cant deal with turrets well, and he can shoot around walls to shoot the moneyball, he pretty much gets a free pass to your spawn area to avoid all the turrets. Doing that much damage with no opposition [other than players that you can kill in 4 shots] whatsoever is an issue to me. I dont really care about how much damage, but if hes basically unstoppable, then I dont know what else to suggest other than nerfing his damage.

    Outside of a counter juice then whats the best method to kill a juiced assault at overtime? I really dont think there is one.
  7. BoltAktion

    BoltAktion New Member

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    You are wrong and should feel bad.

    The assault is fine.

    People will complain about anything I swear :roll:
  8. The Teominator

    The Teominator New Member

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    You dont say.

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