Is there a reason to build vehicles.

Discussion in 'Backers Lounge (Read-only)' started by xiggy, October 7, 2013.

  1. xiggy

    xiggy New Member

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    Bots seem better. Faster, better firepower, etc. I expect this to change as we get closer to release. Am I missing something?
  2. benipk

    benipk New Member

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    It's Beta. Unit balancing will probably not even begin to occur until most, if not all of the planned units are in the game and more important issues are addressed first :)
  3. thepilot

    thepilot Well-Known Member

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    For the moment, no.
  4. fergie

    fergie Member

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    I don't know, Levelers are pretty nasty, but I do think Ants are very very weak
  5. gunshin

    gunshin Well-Known Member

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    what? vehicles are better than bots in straight up battles. so yes, there is reason.
  6. spazzdla

    spazzdla Active Member

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    Vehicles annihilate bots 1 v 1.. 5 v 5... 10 000 v 10 000.. there is a reason to build Vehicles.. land armies lol.
  7. Teod

    Teod Well-Known Member

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    They are also more expensive. If you have battle with equal metal spent and not just equal number of units...
  8. GreenBag

    GreenBag Active Member

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    In Alpha ants were way OP now they've been nerfed, Always got a soft spot for the ants myself, balance will change I think
  9. igncom1

    igncom1 Post Master General

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    Tanks are superior to bots in most respects other then cost and the ability to dodge shots.

    And dodging become harder with large bot armys as missed shots go on to simply hit another bot behind them.
  10. godde

    godde Well-Known Member

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    Use Ants to deathball against Doxes. Use Doxes for everything else.
  11. irregularprogramming

    irregularprogramming Member

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    Bots are great against artillery but against tanks they are awful.

    I used to build bots at the start but I always end up never using them and they end up being a waste of resources and time.
  12. zaphodx

    zaphodx Post Master General

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    Not tried them since they got a double dps buff?
  13. liquius

    liquius Well-Known Member

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    Dox are better in almost every way. The only advantage Ants have is there range and hp (but that doesn't do much since most things kill them in one hit).

    In a Dox vs. Ants battle where they run into each other, Ants can just about come out on top. That is the only time they are better. However Ants suck at everything else due to slow movement speed and barrel turn speed.

    If someone builds an army of Ants, you just walk around them and wipe them all out with one or two laser towers. Meanwhile your Dox overpowered there defenses (due to speed and dps) and wipe out all of there base.
  14. pieman2906

    pieman2906 Well-Known Member

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    Currently, bots are the go-to option, their cost, speed, maneuverability, and ability to concentrate lots of fire down range makes them a far more useful tactical asset than the Ants.

    Apart from being a far more rapid response force, they are also able to bum rush lots of base defenses with the combination of their speed and numbers.

    Defences like Catapults, for example, cannot effectively hold off a dox swarm, because each individual missile is wasting almost all of it's DPS on overkilling individual bots, while the swarm as a whole can close the gap of the catapult's firing range much faster than tanks ever could.
  15. dacite

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    You need both to win.

    Tanks are required to break through a fortified position effectively while bots are better for raiding and territory control. Your bot army can't engage a tank blob directly with any semblance of cost efficiency so you're kind of screwed if your opponent starts pushing your production or forcing engagements. Both have their niche and anybody that builds only bots or only tanks will be stomped hard.
    Murcanic and shootall like this.
  16. fergie

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    Have you seen the Stompers? 140 range (20 more than Levelers) 11 speed, (4 more than levelers, only 1 less than a Dox) 800 Damage on direct hit, 400 splash two spaces around it........they are really handy for raids when supported by Dox and Slammers
  17. godde

    godde Well-Known Member

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    But can they hit moving targets?
  18. fergie

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    They can hit levelers, they are slow as ****, I barely consider them moving lol And they one shot them as well :)

    That is why you need a handful of Dox and Slammers about as well to keep the Ants / Bots away
  19. godde

    godde Well-Known Member

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    Levelers are as fast as commanders and Ants.
    Do Stompers use direct fire or high trajectory when they attack?
    I haven't used them in a while.
  20. liquius

    liquius Well-Known Member

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    No they don't. The only time a Stomper can hit an Ant or Leveler is when it shoots at the leading tanks and hits the trailing tanks.

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