Grappling while frozen?

Seriously? My traps are there to incapacitate those who approach mine, and my allies attacking/defending positions, mainly assassins, so being able to grapple while frozen really is a silly idea.

Before you say, "Why don't you just shoot them?", why should I be unable to safely approach a assassin in my trap, and grapple kill them, without worrying about the same treatment? An upgraded assassin can generally kill a sniper with just a grapple so having access to this ability while frozen can be very annoying for some snipers like me who like to see assassins get a taste of their own medicine.

It might only be a small, not very game breaking problem, but it is certainly illogical considering your legs are trapped in a block of ice, stopping you from even being able to jump on anyone to stab them in the back let alone juggle them in the air with the sword.

To give an Assassin a taste of their own medicine, you'd need to catch them unaware. You'd need some sort of gun that can one-hit kill people from across the map. Maybe with a sight of some sort that magnifies your targets to improve your aim.

Besides, I'd be less worried about their grapple while trapped and more worried about what the shuriken launcher can do to you at that range.

ShaveIce traps deal with people's feet. Its already enough that they're frozen in place with upgrade 2, and are skill drained at level 3, but you want them to be completely unable to act? Don't be ridiculous.

There's another thread about this already, somewhere. Anyway, level three ice traps drain skills, including grapples, so you can approach and grapple an enemy without fear of a counter grapple (but most will return fire).

I'd say why give up a free head shot, but the head shots are so finicky in this game the grapple is much more reliable against lightly armored targets.

I think it's pretty silly that enemy players can still grapple when Blinded. It makes no sense for a blinding "disable skill" to allow an enemy to still be able to grapple! ...Well, it does, because technically a real person can still feel his environment, but it's still annoying.

I was going to point out why that was reasonable, but it looks like you already countered yourself for me

Being completely unable to do anything while frozen IS NOT being unable to grapple while frozen. In case you hadn't noticed the assassin also carries a shieruken (I have no clue how to spell it, pardon me) launcher. A smart assassin would immediately switch to the launcher to deter any close enemies as best as possible or possibly use a smoke bomb.

Also why do you think I was talking about shaveice turrets and not the traps that the sniper puts down? When I say frozen I mean frozen in place, not being able to move with your legs trapped in ice, NOT being slowed down by shaveice turrets.

End point? You should only be able to look, shoot and use skills other than grapple while frozen, the fact that the trap is there to immobilize people who activate and make them vulnerable is totally nullified when an assassin can instantly grapple kill you (as a sniper when they have the sword) let alone do so much damage so quickly by grappling in the first place.

The ability to grapple while in a (below level 3) sniper trap is intentional. The devs have stated this. If you've got a problem with it because it "doesn't make sense" then you should probably stop shooting through your own bots to hit the other team, and the hundred other things in this game that "don't make sense."

If you want a free grapple on a sniper (or anyone else) stuck in your trap, upgrade it to level three.

I play sniper as my main, and it doesn't bother me at all. The SMG is plenty powerful enough to take out an assassin before she thaws, and for other enemies you just need SMG + flak. Or, you could just headshot them, which is really the recommended method. Personally though, I'll go in for the grapple every time just because of how satisfying it is.

QFT. Here here.

I don't mind the grappling while frozen, I just hate how assassins can run through my traps and somehow grapple me, and then the traps goes off. That I do not understand.

That's lag related, I'd bet. The trap doesn't seem to trigger the instant they breach it's field, but maybe a step or two in. In a high latency environment the game might not register them within the field until they're on top of you, so even with level three ice traps you may still be grappled sometimes.

If you ask me, honestly, I think if you've walked right up to them while they're frozen (and thus eliminating the benefit of such trap) then... you deserve it. Isn't the idea of the trap against assassins to stop them so they can't get at you for a grapple?

If you want to be "Logical" about it, then why arn't you complaining about the fact that your own trap doesn't freeze you when you walk in it? i mean it must be INCREDIBLY cold if the instant someone walks in it they are frozen solid so whats stopping you from being frozen? it's not the suit because it effects enemy snipers as well, i'm sure. your Flak hurts you, so logically, your trap should trap you as well.