Gatling Bertha

Discussion in 'Backers Lounge (Read-only)' started by snownebula, November 21, 2013.

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Bring Gatling Bertha back?

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  2. No.

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  1. snownebula

    snownebula Member

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    I haven't been on in a long time but I would like to see the Gatling Bertha brought back. It was by far one of my most favorite artality units.
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    KNight Post Master General

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  3. Nayzablade

    Nayzablade Active Member

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    Also, it was called a Vulcan Cannon I believe :)
    Vulcan_8barrel.jpg
  4. cptconundrum

    cptconundrum Post Master General

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    Doesn't this qualify as a hard counter to land units though? It effectively obsoletes all land armies while it exists. Things like this existed in TA as game enders, but PA already has that in the form of planets which you can throw at other planets.
  5. nanolathe

    nanolathe Post Master General

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    Wouldn't work. Round planets don't play well with high velocity straight-shot artillery.

    The Bertha is dead my friends, we shall never see her like again in our time.
  6. ace63

    ace63 Post Master General

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    How is the Holkins doing it? Isn't it some kind of big bertha (even though it is less cool :/ )?
  7. nanolathe

    nanolathe Post Master General

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    It fires a (relatively) slow shot in a high arc, much more akin to SupCom's artillery than Total Annihilation's Bertha.
  8. ace63

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    Well it could still be made into some kind of gatling artillery then - different from the vulcan but still....
    As long as it is horribly inaccurate :)
  9. MrTBSC

    MrTBSC Post Master General

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    ... so scathis ? (not the dev but the cybran experimental artillery)
  10. ace63

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    Yes something along these lines.
    I guess it was named after him, wasn't it?
  11. piquedram

    piquedram New Member

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    I think we've got enough artillery as it is. Like was said before, we don't need a hard counter to land armies all around. A bunch of Holkins or catapults should be enough for any turtle.
  12. snownebula

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    No night, I meant to create a new post to talk about the Vulcan Cannon. But by all means make a post there if your so inclined.

    I think we need more artillery in PA. After all this was in TA, and it is one of my favorite units second to the Thunder Bomber. ^^

    As always, DEVS Great job so far, game is looking amazing :D
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    What if it was a interplanetary bombarder?
  14. occusoj

    occusoj Active Member

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    Yeah, bring on a vulcan clone.
    Doesnt matter if it shoots an arc like the Lobber, Interplanetary or just relatively straight thus require building it a bit elevated to gain range.
    All options are awesome.
  15. Culverin

    Culverin Post Master General

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    If the arc is very near perfect...
    It can follow the curvature of the planet and just seem like it's firing straight.
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  16. nanolathe

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    The arc of the shot is derived from the gravitational pull of the planet and the speed of the projectile. On small planets it would shoot into space and on larger ones it would slam into the ground. Only planets that are 'just right' would allow the Bertha-a-like to fire and follow the curvature of the planet.

    Thus on the vast majority of worlds a straight-shot artillery piece is all but worthless.

    The Bertha is dead folks, mourn her passing.
  17. cdrkf

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    It doesn't have to be dead nanolathe... This would be a perfect planet to planet weapon! Fire this from the moon to main planet for epicness...

    Cost would have to be high as well as very high energy cost to run...
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  18. igncom1

    igncom1 Post Master General

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    Its the rapid fire we want nano, straight shot or not.
  19. Culverin

    Culverin Post Master General

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    This may be a very, very stupid question....

    But what if you were to set a "bertha" to fire at the enemy base, but instead of letting it auto-fire in the shortest direction, you fire
    Silly nano,
    Even if we ignore that this game doesn't always follow physics, in this case, it can do that perfectly well.

    You make it sound like in the future, you can't have variable velocity rail guns....
    A robot can calculate velocity needed to hit a target.
    That's not even rocket science, just basic kinematic equations from Physics 101.
    :p
  20. nanolathe

    nanolathe Post Master General

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    The essence of the Bertha was the straight shot. It's no use invoking her name if you're not using her most notable feature. Rapid fire artillery is fine and may well appear in PA... but it won't be like the Bertha, nor the Vulcan, the Intimidator, nor the Buzzsaw.

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