Combat Edition vs Warfare Edition Discussion (Remake)

Discussion in 'Backers Lounge (Read-only)' started by stuart98, November 21, 2013.

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Should Warfare Edition Owners Get the Progenitor? (KS Backers at or above $50 only please!)

  1. Yes, after all, they spent $10 more than we did.

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    15.9%
  2. Yes, and give it to the $40 KS (Equivalent to warfare edition currently) backers as well.

    5 vote(s)
    11.4%
  3. I am torn between both arguments and can't pick a superior one.

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  4. No, all of the progenitors should be mine and mine alone! All mine!

    23 vote(s)
    52.3%
  5. I have no opinion.

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    20.5%
  1. stuart98

    stuart98 Post Master General

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    Remade due to a minor error that couldn't be fixed (Uneditable polls)

    Considering that combat edition pre orderers and $15/20 backers are now getting beta access, I think that some of the warfare edition buyers, particularly those who bought it within the last couple of weeks, may be upset. How does uber feel about us getting an exclusive commander? The $50 backers get access to an exclusive progenitor commander. Other than the Progenitor, their package was the same as the $40 package and the warfare edition. Given this, perhaps uber could add it to the warfare edition? How do the $50 ks backers feel about this?
  2. broadsideet

    broadsideet Active Member

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    Stuart... -_- C'mon man, here too?
  3. stuart98

    stuart98 Post Master General

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    Broad, I'm not even a fan of the Progenitor. The Alpha com is where it's at, but obviously $90 backers deserve that and no one else. I am merely saying that some people who got the warfare edition within the last couple of weeks may be unhappy about the combat people getting in now with no notification prior that this would happen. I am not one of these people, I am merely pointing this out. If you would not be cynical, that would be great.
  4. broadsideet

    broadsideet Active Member

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    Why can't people just accept that sometimes limited edition rewards are limited? Progenitor was limited to a tier of KICKSTARTER backers. Kickstarter was what made this game possible, not the people who bought the game last week. Why can't people who put their faith in to Uber early on have a little something special?
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  5. Dementiurge

    Dementiurge Post Master General

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    That 4th option is suspiciously popular.
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  6. thetrophysystem

    thetrophysystem Post Master General

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    That 4th option almost sounds biased in wording.

    Like phrasing something childish:

    "Does your mama know your dumb?
    a) Yes she knows i'm dumb.
    b) No, she doesn't know, but I am in fact dumb."

    In lamen's terms, in a fair poll asking for honest opinion, how does wording an answer as "immoral and mosterous" against an answer that is "fair and supportive" going to get correct results instead of "desired" results?

    Also, why is there even a boob answer and two forms of undecided answer? That too is a way to water down and/or stack polls... heads I win tails you lose?
  7. Slamz

    Slamz Well-Known Member

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    Kickstarter says $50 or more gets you the Progenitor.
    It does not say $40 gets you the Progenitor.
    I don't understand this thread.

    I personally paid $60 through Steam for early access last month. Steam Early Access did not promise me a Progenitor. If I wanted a Progenitor, I should have used the $50 Kickstarter option, not the $60 (much later) Steam option or the $40 Kickstarter option or the $40 humble bundle deal.


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  8. stormingkiwi

    stormingkiwi Post Master General

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    Two forms of undecided are important. It differentiates those who don't care from those who care about ye argument. Which is important, because if there are 500, 000 views, 1000 votes, that means that 1 in 500 people voted, not that 499 in 500 people do not care about the topic enough to vote.
  9. thetrophysystem

    thetrophysystem Post Master General

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    Undecided is undecided. So, the people who are undecided but like both are 1 option, the people who are undecided but like neither are 1 option, and not voting itself is like both of those options really.

    And the boob answer was because?

    I have to agree overall, this thread has no reason whatsoever to get anything close to accurate results. It deserves no merit in any arguments, and may God have mercy on all of our souls.
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  10. stormingkiwi

    stormingkiwi Post Master General

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    I see the point.

    However, it's an opinion poll. Do you think option A is good? Do you think option B is good? Do you think it's 6 and one and half a dozen of the other? Or do you not care in any case?

    I'm not undecided. I genuinely don't care either way. So I voted. If option A is picked, and option B is missed out on, for me there is no opportunity cost for option A. For the person who sees merit in both approaches option A has an opportunity cost that leaves them unable to say its better than option B or vice versa, but for me it's not that the opportunity costs are equal, it's that there is no opportunity cost whatsoever.

    People who don't vote are people who refuse to take the survey. Which doesn't actually indicate what their opinion is - they could be against polls, they could not have time, etc.

    I have no idea which one you mean is the boob answer. I do agree that the options are

    Yes
    Yes
    Maybe
    No
    I don't care.
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  11. thetrophysystem

    thetrophysystem Post Master General

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    Those are answers from someone who has no clue what they are talking about, just woke up, or just took a swing with their one hitter if you know what I mean.

    Yes. Yes? Maybe... Nooo. ...I don't care.
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  12. stormingkiwi

    stormingkiwi Post Master General

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    With the exception of dual yes options, those
    are answers common to opinion polls.Strong yes, yes, maybe, no, strong no, not applicable to me.

    It's the way opinion polls are run by professional companies.





  13. thetrophysystem

    thetrophysystem Post Master General

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    Really? Everyone go to Walmart.com, Kmart.com, Target.com, CVS.com, Walgreens.com, and whatever taco bell/burger king's hiring website is... Tell me when you apply and take the hiring survey to collect data on your decision making, how many answers do the multiple choice opinion ones have, how many words are in each answer, and how obvious are the question/answer?

    Are there MORE than 5? Are there any more than 3 words long? Are there any double neutrals?

    Wouldn't it be ridiculous if the question said "do you think it's okay to steal stuff from work" and one answer was "yes its fine to bite the hand that feeds you" and the other was "no its not alright to commit a crime against your work". WONDER WHICH ANSWER IS OBVIOUS THERE...
  14. stormingkiwi

    stormingkiwi Post Master General

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    That's what you mean by a boob answer! got it!

    Multiple choice opinion polls have strongly agree, agree, neutral, disagree, strongly disagree, not applicable.

    This poll has agree, agree, neutral, disagree, not applicable.

    So yes. There are more than 5, (there are 6). Otherwise the answers to questions are no.

    I think what we can all take away from this is that we desperately need a PSA on how to poll.

    P.S. Please don't shout. I have a hangover. I have to read everything you read aloud.

    P.P.S. Just kidding.

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