Cheaper Idea Packs

Discussion in 'Planetary Annihilation General Discussion' started by thisrules, July 29, 2013.

  1. thisrules

    thisrules New Member

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    Would it be possible to make a cheap game pass that you can buy that only has alpha or beta and game key at the price range of £15/£25 for younger kids like me who dont own that amount of money.

    P.S
    Is the unit/build going to be limited or unlimited?
    And it looks epic i hope it will be in the top charts
  2. tatsujb

    tatsujb Post Master General

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    no.

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    no.

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    if the game ends up being lower than 40$ I'm done with kickstarting anything. forever.
  3. sabetwolf

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    im pretty sure whats he asking for is if they would consider selling JUST the alpha or JUST the beta - you dont get into other parts if you buy them. I'd be all for it, as long as buying more than one was more expensive than buying the game itself at that level (e.g. Beta + Retail bought separately cost more than Beta + Retail bought together.)
  4. KNight

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    No, he is talking about something more akin to;

    Retail Key - Beta Key - Alpha Key only, no other extras

    Retail Key - Beta Key only, no other extras

    Mike
  5. sabetwolf

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    Ah, didn't realise. Thank you Knight. I really need to get into the habit of reading posts more closely. If that's the case, my answer is nigh the same as tatsujb
  6. zaphodx

    zaphodx Post Master General

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    You can wait until December when the price will be around $40.
  7. Stormie

    Stormie Active Member

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    I think that that guys request is very valid, hard for a minor with little income to afford access to the trial period. however he probably doesnt realise that it would be impossible to differentiate a minor from an independent (of age) person whos a cheapskate.

    If retail is going to be $40, would it not be beneficial to price the game and beta access at that price as it means more signups now. surely it would cost less to provide the content and keys digitally now than the profit made by selling retail.

    Obviously would need to be weighed up against the fact that it would further complicate an already complicated tiered product line.
  8. YourLocalMadSci

    YourLocalMadSci Well-Known Member

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    Just for the record, $40 at the moment is about £26.

    You want a cheaper game. Fine. All you need to do is wait.
  9. oxide246

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    If you want the game that bad, maybe now might be a good time to start getting business minded! Deliver papers for a week. Ask the neighbours if they want their lawns mowed for $10. Steal a smaller kids lunch money. Whatever man!
  10. Stormie

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    $40 US is $43 AUD, a minor can realistically expect to earn around $7AUD per hour for a casual job.

    By charging the retail price now, Uber get a bigger cut of the money, at a lower cost plus with the time value of money its worth more too. (dollar today is worth more than a dollar tomorrow)

    What it really looks like is the few early adopters trying to preserve, their little exclusive group. Would it not be better to have a larger pool of people playing and potentially reporting bugs (many 14-16 yeor olds that i expect this situation might affect are not stupid little kids), plus they have more time and will likely play more games giving Uber a bigger data pool.

    I realise this post will be unpopular and there are probably equally as many valid arguments the other way, i just think that someone should consider it. as it seems reasonable enough - however its an Uber decision not really much point in us going into it here is there.

    Stormie
  11. zaphodx

    zaphodx Post Master General

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    For about a gazillion reasons discussed to death many times over. Can't screw over 10's of thousands of people who have already purchased at a higher price, the high price is to encourage serious users who understand the state of the development, and to avoid overloading the servers with tons of people in a highly unoptimised game.
  12. KNight

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    To be fair, it it was done as the OP described, in being JUST the game keys and nothing else you could offer a lower price without doing any harm to your Kickstarter Backers and Pre-Orderers, the Value is still there, they got a heck of a lot of extras for the extra amount they'd pay.

    Functionally it's the same as the Digital Only Tiers from the Kickstarter, you lost out on the Physical goods, but got the rest at a reduced rate.

    Mike
  13. Stormie

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    Why? they dont lose anything?
    I paid for the $90 pack less than 24 hours before the price was reduced... Doesnt mean i think everyone should pay the price i paid.

    I acknowledge the point about over stressing the servers as one i hadnt considered, however i doubt that you'd get a trippling of traffic or anything mind boggling.

    Everybody knows that when you go into these things early you are doing it because you believe the outcome should be achieved not because you think it is necessarily a fair price for what you'll receive.
  14. zaphodx

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    I don't see how a digital artbook, wallpaper and the audio you can extract from the game files would be worth paying such a huge amount extra for?

    Don't think that's true. Doesn't matter how many warnings or explanations you put up about alpha status people will still expect a flawless finished game.
  15. KNight

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    Who is to say they will be included in the game files? Obviously on the internet, you can get anything if you look hard enough but that's not the point. The point is that mechanically it's not violating anyone's prior purchase, what the adjusted price should be for such a package is obviously subject to us as consumers. Uber would pick the price they feel is accurate.

    Mike
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    Realistically its actually $10AUD an hour. Do a single shift and you can afford this. The problem is getting a job in the first place...
  17. Stormie

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    Haha im a financial planner... naturally out of touch with minors earning rates!

    But yes i see your point.
  18. tatsujb

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    no.

    we love the way our gaming community is not lol's gaming community, we care not for more players. it's not like we're not already (afinal playerbase of) 2 million anyways.
    also wrong, You can tell by the posts you get here (when you get threads from the individuals) they don't want to know how to report a bug , they don't have the mindset to want to know or want to care. they have the mindset for playing a game. and complaining that its 90bucks, when they don't realise the game actually isn't out and it actually is 40bucks. if explaining that to them is near impossible, you get the idea as to how productive they are.
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    When I was a minor and couldn't afford to pay for my Gaming habit I simply went and got a Sunday job, that's right I worked on Sundays to pay for my games, I don't think I ever asked a company to drop the price of their games though.
  20. jbeetle

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    When I was a minor and couldn't afford to pay for my gaming habit, I was simply unable to buy it. It is especially true for items that fall in the entertainment/dont-need-to-have category. I got over it.

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